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1790s trade card - 3/16/2011 7:23:59 AM    deepbluedigger   Posts: 591 Joined: 1/12/2006 From: Yorkshire, England Status: offline Recently added this trade card to my very small collection of British patent medicine go-withs. The real thing is just a little larger than this picture (7.5" x 4"). Dates to the mid / late 1790s. Maredants Drops was widely sold in the UK, North America and the British colonies from the 1770s right through to the 1850s, and the bottles probably didn't really change throughout that time. They are pretty ordinary-looking tall, square section, flint glass things, but the trade card is something else. Pictorial British trade cards from before 1800, for any kind of product, are very difficult to find so I was very happy to get this one. I don't have a Maredants Drops bottle to go with this, so I'll pull out all the stops to get hold of one if one becomes available (hint, hint ). Attachment (1) < Message edited by deepbluedigger -- 3/16/2011 7:29:44 AM > _____________________________ www.diggersdiary.co.uk Post #: 1

RE: 1790s trade card - 3/16/2011 7:50:44 AM    cowseatmaize Posts: 6403 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Eastern Northwest West Central area of Mass Status: offline quote: I don't have a Maredants Drops bottle to go with this, Interesting, your "go with" IS the bottle. Nice card. _____________________________ Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati Eric (in reply to deepbluedigger) Post #: 2

RE: 1790s trade card - 3/16/2011 8:22:20 AM    deepbluedigger   Posts: 591 Joined: 1/12/2006 From: Yorkshire, England Status: offline quote: ORIGINAL: cowseatmaize quote: I don't have a Maredants Drops bottle to go with this, Interesting, your "go with" IS the bottle. Nice card. That made me LAUGH. You are 100%correct. _____________________________ www.diggersdiary.co.uk (in reply to cowseatmaize) Post #: 3

RE: 1790s trade card - 3/16/2011 9:43:39 AM    Road Dog Posts: 2784 Joined: 6/9/2005 From: Clayton, North Carolina Status: online Kool card. I've seen ads for those drops before somewhere's. What are the pics at the bottom (left and right). Some sort of plant and a Still? Any significance?   (in reply to deepbluedigger) Post #: 4

RE: 1790s trade card - 3/16/2011 10:14:11 AM    deepbluedigger   Posts: 591 Joined: 1/12/2006 From: Yorkshire, England Status: offline I think the significance is pretty 'usual' for quack medicines of the time: still = alchemy / 'science', and the plant probably is just intended to imply botanical / 'natural' origins. 'Botanicals' were a big deal in patent / quack medicines right through the 18th and 19th centuries. _____________________________ www.diggersdiary.co.uk (in reply to Road Dog) Post #: 5

RE: 1790s trade card - 3/16/2011 11:31:14 AM    Road Dog Posts: 2784 Joined: 6/9/2005 From: Clayton, North Carolina Status: online I found some mention of Hayman cards prior to 1744. That's some real early stuff there. What are the 2 names just under the fence? < Message edited by Road Dog -- 3/16/2011 11:34:50 AM > (in reply to deepbluedigger) Post #: 6

RE: 1790s trade card - 3/16/2011 12:59:11 PM    deepbluedigger   Posts: 591 Joined: 1/12/2006 From: Yorkshire, England Status: offline quote: ORIGINAL: Road Dog What are the 2 names just under the fence? It's the name of probably the illustrator, engraver or printer: Long, of Clements Lane on The Strand. The 1744 Hayman must have been a different person, I think. This John Hayman was in his late 30s or 40s when this card was produced. He'd started off, when he was very young, as the assistant to Mr Norton. Norton seems to have died in the early 1780s. There were a few copy-cat 'Maredants Drops' medicines around at the time, although Norton's seems to have been the original. _____________________________ www.diggersdiary.co.uk (in reply to Road Dog) Post #: 7

RE: 1790s trade card - 3/16/2011 2:25:04 PM    Road Dog Posts: 2784 Joined: 6/9/2005 From: Clayton, North Carolina Status: online The 1744 card was for Maredants Drops as well. http://nq.oxfordjournals.org/content/CLXIX/sep21/209-d.extract < Message edited by Road Dog -- 3/16/2011 2:27:20 PM > (in reply to deepbluedigger) Post #: 8

RE: 1790s trade card - 3/16/2011 3:00:17 PM    Road Dog Posts: 2784 Joined: 6/9/2005 From: Clayton, North Carolina Status: online Ok, I found that John Norton Patented  Maredants Drops in 1764 and John Hayman was his successor. In 1782 Hayman sold Maredants Drops in square bottles. Not sure what that earlier date was about. (in reply to Road Dog) Post #: 9

RE: 1790s trade card - 3/23/2011 4:14:38 PM    deepbluedigger   Posts: 591 Joined: 1/12/2006 From: Yorkshire, England Status: offline Like buses: you wait years without seeing one, then two come along at once. This arrived today. Dates to 1784, five to eight years earlier than the other one. Needless to say I now NEED the bottle to go with them. Anyone knows where there's a good one (or even a bad one) pleeeese let me know!! Attachment (1) < Message edited by deepbluedigger -- 3/23/2011 4:21:49 PM > _____________________________ www.diggersdiary.co.uk (in reply to Road Dog) Post #: 10

RE: 1790s trade card - 3/23/2011 5:15:00 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11470 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline Amazing trade card. I have probably 500 medicine trade cards and its extremely rare to find any made before the 1860s. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to deepbluedigger) Post #: 11

RE: 1790s trade card - 3/23/2011 5:22:59 PM    cookie Posts: 1442 Joined: 2/19/2006 Status: offline Amazing trade card..I'm jealous ! (in reply to deepbluedigger) Post #: 12

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