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17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 6:48:10 PM    CanYaDigIt Posts: 1002 Joined: 2/5/2009 From: Back In Sac, CA Status: offline Help.....I got this Holy Water today.  Can anyone help me date the bottle?  I remember a post with a bottle with a painted on date of 1600 and something that this reminded me of.  Does anyone know where it is or who wrote it? _____________________________ Comes a time when the blind man takes your hand, says "Don't you see" Post #: 1

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 7:08:41 PM    cyberdigger Posts: 12267 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: offline Sewellbottleman started the thread you're thinking of, but i can't remember the title.. this is an interesting bottle!! I'm curious about it.. (in reply to CanYaDigIt) Post #: 2

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 7:45:06 PM    CanYaDigIt Posts: 1002 Joined: 2/5/2009 From: Back In Sac, CA Status: offline Thanks Charlie.  I sent Sewellbottleman a PM to see if he had any info.  I do know that the IHS on the front is Roman Catholic and is a monogram for the name Jesus Christ used since the 8th century.  Im very exited to see what I can learn about it.    _____________________________ Comes a time when the blind man takes your hand, says "Don't you see" (in reply to CanYaDigIt) Post #: 3

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 7:52:13 PM    cyberdigger Posts: 12267 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: offline ..one bit of trivial input I can offer is that I think it was painted by a leftie.. (in reply to CanYaDigIt) Post #: 4

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 7:53:57 PM    CanYaDigIt Posts: 1002 Joined: 2/5/2009 From: Back In Sac, CA Status: offline Something only a painter would know.  What clues led you to that conclusion? _____________________________ Comes a time when the blind man takes your hand, says "Don't you see" (in reply to cyberdigger) Post #: 5

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 8:02:16 PM    cyberdigger Posts: 12267 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: offline The white curlies on the sides give it away.. they are all facing the same way, and the direction of them would have been preferred by a south paw.. unless the image is reversed due to photographic reasons, then the opposite would be the case.. (wish they had an emoticon for art geek!) (in reply to CanYaDigIt) Post #: 6

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 8:06:41 PM    pyshodoodle Posts: 2801 Joined: 8/3/2008 From: Lehigh Valley PA Status: offline quote: ORIGINAL: cyberdigger ..one bit of trivial input I can offer is that I think it was painted by a leftie.. I agree - being a leftie. It just flows naturally that way on the sides. _____________________________ HONESTY IS NO LONGER PC. (in reply to cyberdigger) Post #: 7

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 8:07:40 PM    pyshodoodle Posts: 2801 Joined: 8/3/2008 From: Lehigh Valley PA Status: offline See you already answered that, Charlie! _____________________________ HONESTY IS NO LONGER PC. (in reply to pyshodoodle) Post #: 8

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 8:09:58 PM    CanYaDigIt Posts: 1002 Joined: 2/5/2009 From: Back In Sac, CA Status: offline Ah.....I see, I see.  Cool.   _____________________________ Comes a time when the blind man takes your hand, says "Don't you see" (in reply to pyshodoodle) Post #: 9

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 8:10:22 PM    cyberdigger Posts: 12267 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: offline Yeah but thanks for backing me up on this, Kate! (in reply to pyshodoodle) Post #: 10

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 8:13:58 PM    woody Posts: 3646 Joined: 10/29/2002 From: Gilmanton, New Hampshire Status: offline Was this the thread?? http://www.antique-bottles.net/forum/m-232625/mpage-1/key-amelung/tm.htm#232625 _____________________________ Woody (in reply to cyberdigger) Post #: 11

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 8:17:29 PM    pyshodoodle Posts: 2801 Joined: 8/3/2008 From: Lehigh Valley PA Status: offline On the front, the right side for the most part looks like it was easier for the painter than the left side - it's slightly better, in my opinion. and those little white lines in the middle at the top that curve down - that's lefty too. _____________________________ HONESTY IS NO LONGER PC. (in reply to cyberdigger) Post #: 12

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 8:18:16 PM    CanYaDigIt Posts: 1002 Joined: 2/5/2009 From: Back In Sac, CA Status: offline Thats the one.  Thanks Woody.  The shape looks very similar to the ones in the pic with the 3 bottles in it, only the color is much nicer. I'll take some better pics for everyone......give me a couple minuets. < Message edited by CanYaDigIt -- 7/27/2009 8:19:46 PM > _____________________________ Comes a time when the blind man takes your hand, says "Don't you see" (in reply to CanYaDigIt) Post #: 13

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 8:28:30 PM    glass man Posts: 7721 Joined: 1/30/2008 From: GEORGIA Status: offline I WILL GIVE YOU $10 CASH! FOR THIS BOTTLE! I AM FEELING GENEROUS! NOW ON THE OTHER HAND IF A RIGHT HANDED PERSON HAD PAINTED IT I WOULD GO ....ARE YOU SITTING DOWN? .......$25 !!!! I AM TALKING TAX FREE!! A REALLY NICE,NICE BOTTLE THAT WOULD LOOK GREAT IN MY COLLECTION! JUST GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS AND.... ALL JOKING ON SIDE ..YOU HAVE A GREAT BOTTLE! I DO WONDER IF THESE SORT OF BOTTLES WERE REPRODUCED? NOT TRYING TO RAIN ON YOUR PARADE ,BUT... I ONCE SAW TWO OF THESE TYPE BOTTLES THAT HAD PAINTINGS OF A MAN AND WOMAN DRESSED IN COLONIAN AMERICAN TYPE CLOTHES AT AN ANTIQUE MALL AND I AM PRETTY SURE THEY WERE REPROS. HOPE STEVE MAN CAN HELP! HE SURE KNOWS HIS STUFF! JAMIE < Message edited by glass man -- 7/27/2009 8:34:38 PM > _____________________________ LET NOT YOUR HEART BE TROUBLED ! IF YOU NEED A BLESSING OR A SONG THAT WILL PICK YOU UP PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS SONG FROM"VAN THE MAN"MORRISON! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi4R2YXv_AE (in reply to CanYaDigIt) Post #: 14

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 8:35:02 PM    pyshodoodle Posts: 2801 Joined: 8/3/2008 From: Lehigh Valley PA Status: offline Here's what I think of that comment glassman! Attachment (1) _____________________________ HONESTY IS NO LONGER PC. (in reply to glass man) Post #: 15

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 8:50:10 PM    CanYaDigIt Posts: 1002 Joined: 2/5/2009 From: Back In Sac, CA Status: offline Here's some better pics.  Thanks for the very generous offer Jamie, but I think I'll pass.  If it is a repro, it's a damn fine one and still worth more then I payed for it for sure.  < Message edited by CanYaDigIt -- 7/27/2009 8:51:01 PM > _____________________________ Comes a time when the blind man takes your hand, says "Don't you see" (in reply to pyshodoodle) Post #: 16

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 9:00:30 PM    appliedlips Posts: 3506 Joined: 1/30/2005 Status: offline       It looks new to me but it is nicely done. _____________________________ LOOKING FOR PONTILLED OR EARLY SQUAT SODAS FROM HIGHLAND,ILLNOIS.. (in reply to CanYaDigIt) Post #: 17

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 9:23:52 PM    kungfufighter Posts: 1211 Joined: 2/18/2005 Status: offline As is often the case Doug and I find ourselves in the same boat.  I too have a very strong suspicion that the bottle is modern. _____________________________ www.jeffnholantiquebottles.com www.noordsyantiques.com (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 18

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 9:35:05 PM    CanYaDigIt Posts: 1002 Joined: 2/5/2009 From: Back In Sac, CA Status: offline I just found this on an English museums web site.  It was made in Bohemia in 1572.  Notice the neck and the closure.  I would never guess this was 14th century.  My guess is that this would appear modern to you as well, as it would to me too. Attachment (1) < Message edited by CanYaDigIt -- 7/27/2009 9:36:58 PM > _____________________________ Comes a time when the blind man takes your hand, says "Don't you see" (in reply to CanYaDigIt) Post #: 19

RE: 17th or 18th Century? - 7/27/2009 9:36:19 PM    pyshodoodle Posts: 2801 Joined: 8/3/2008 From: Lehigh Valley PA Status: offline Jeff, I know you know your stuff - can you please elaborate for those of us that don't so we can learn something? Thanks! Kate _____________________________ HONESTY IS NO LONGER PC. (in reply to kungfufighter) Post #: 20

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