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A puzzler--aqua with metal/rubber - 7/18/2008 4:48:41 PM    rustlover   Posts: 4 Joined: 7/18/2008 Status: offline I'm trying to identify this bottle.  I haven't seen it yet--only the photos--but will be able to measure it next week and check for markings.  At this point, I'm most interested in identifying the bottle's use.  The stopper has what looks like a steel pourer and air hole.  It's attached to a black rubber stopper and the part of the pourer that extends down into the neck of the bottle may be plastic (?!), but I can't tell.  It's white.  I'm only attaching the main overview photo.  What's catching me up is the combination of a unique and interesting shape for aqua glass with the more industrial looking pourer (including threading (?) at its edge.  There's writing on the pourer, but I won't know what it says until I see the real thing.  This is from a co-worker's private collection. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Be responsible! Digging on federal and state land is a felony. Post #: 1

RE: A puzzler--aqua with metal/rubber - 7/18/2008 5:02:16 PM    Wilkie   Posts: 229 Joined: 5/2/2008 From: Suisun City, CA Status: offline That stopper may not go to that bottle.  I dont' think it's for pouring either.  I've seen stoppers like this in laboratories, stuffed into beakers or test tubes.  I think that is where the stopper came from.  _____________________________ http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=395846520 www.tim.wilkinson.org I buy Northern California bottles. Also, "any" Jamaica Ginger that I don't already have. (in reply to rustlover) Post #: 2

RE: A puzzler--aqua with metal/rubber - 7/18/2008 5:12:27 PM    rustlover   Posts: 4 Joined: 7/18/2008 Status: offline I wondered about that...it seems an odd pair.  Any guesses on the bottle's use sans stopper? _____________________________ Be responsible! Digging on federal and state land is a felony. (in reply to Wilkie) Post #: 3

RE: A puzzler--aqua with metal/rubber - 7/18/2008 5:27:02 PM    Wilkie   Posts: 229 Joined: 5/2/2008 From: Suisun City, CA Status: offline How big is the bottle?  It kind of looks like a decanter of some sort, not really sure.  With that stopper it looks like someones science fair project or something?  Smoking device?  Still?  Someone here will likely know.  _____________________________ http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=395846520 www.tim.wilkinson.org I buy Northern California bottles. Also, "any" Jamaica Ginger that I don't already have. (in reply to rustlover) Post #: 4

RE: A puzzler--aqua with metal/rubber - 7/18/2008 7:35:49 PM    Dansalata   Posts: 259 Joined: 10/18/2005 Status: offline TURN IT UPSIDE DOWN MAYBE SOMEBODY USED IT FOR A BIRD FEEDER!!! _____________________________ DANSALATA (in reply to Wilkie) Post #: 5

RE: A puzzler--aqua with metal/rubber - 7/18/2008 8:23:37 PM    beendiggin Posts: 547 Joined: 6/30/2005 Status: offline I think it might be a master ink...that pourer looks like one I've seen for ink bottles.  _____________________________ Paul Let no cobalt skull that can belong to me belong to another. (in reply to rustlover) Post #: 6

RE: A puzzler--aqua with metal/rubber - 7/21/2008 11:10:25 AM    rustlover   Posts: 4 Joined: 7/18/2008 Status: offline Ok, I've got it and it looks like beendiggin is right.  The pourer on the top says "Ford's Inkwell" with a manufacture code I can't read yet.  There's a partial label that I haven't totally deciphered yet, but reads at least "P A U" "Writing & C..." with an inkwell to the left that reads "Paul's Choice Inks" "----lt Bottle and Inks Co". Very interesting!  And much less mysterious now that I've finally seen the original!  Thanks all for your help! _____________________________ Be responsible! Digging on federal and state land is a felony. (in reply to beendiggin) Post #: 7

RE: A puzzler--aqua with metal/rubber - 7/21/2008 1:39:06 PM    rustlover   Posts: 4 Joined: 7/18/2008 Status: offline Ok, so I've done my research now and just want to share what I've learned for any who are interested. This is a master ink made by Paul's Safety Bottle and Ink Co. of New York.  The bottle itself is aqua with a cupmolded base, tooled finish and a fair number of air vents in the mold, so it was probably made around 1900-1910, but could probably range from 1890 to 1915 if it was an earlier or later model than most.  The label is only 25% intact, but the parts that most matter--the beginning and end--are there.  The stopper is really neat.  It's from patent no. 173,668 by Frederick Redington and represents an improvement in pourability for quick and clean refilling of desk inkwells, etc.  It's a cork with two metal tubes, one (the short air hole) extends into the inkwell about 2 inches beyond the cork.  This part is corroded white (hence the photo I saw making me suspect plastic or something more modern).  Both openings are threaded for caps to protect the ink from air.  Judging by the remnants in the bottle and on the cork, I'd say it's a pretty standard black ink. Sorry I don't have a new, better picture to attach.  This was a fun little challenge to i.d., and hopefully is useful and interesting for the group. If anyone knows more about the company, or the value of this bottle, please let me know as I suspect my friend would be most interested in knowing if it's worth anything.  He generally brings in very common old beer bottles, so I'm looking forward to giving him more exciting news this time. Thanks! _____________________________ Be responsible! Digging on federal and state land is a felony. (in reply to rustlover) Post #: 8

RE: A puzzler--aqua with metal/rubber - 7/21/2008 10:58:10 PM    appliedlips Posts: 1516 Joined: 1/30/2005 Status: offline     Cool thread,I dug two of those minus the stoppers awhile back and had no idea what they were.They were in with 20's stuff so I think they may have just been a late,handblown bottle. _____________________________ When life drops a big dump on ya, DIG IT! (in reply to rustlover) Post #: 9

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