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A rather interesting day - 4/25/2004 3:35:43 PM   
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On my way up the hill, I was looking to my right.Not paying much attention to my path. Happened to look down and stopped immediately. 3' from a 3' timber rattesnake.Sunning itself on the trail. Cool critter huh.




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RE: A rather interesting day - 4/25/2004 3:39:42 PM   
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Just happened to run into my partner.Who was looking at bambi.We decided to go exploring for another site instead of this one today.




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RE: A rather interesting day - 4/25/2004 3:43:30 PM   
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Found a bottle!nothing fancy,but the right age.




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RE: A rather interesting day - 4/25/2004 3:47:29 PM   
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just a little ways from this strange wood lined hole.Is this worth digging?all in all,a rather interesting day.




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RE: A rather interesting day - 4/25/2004 7:25:52 PM   
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Hey diginit, you best go dig that hole looks like a dunny hole to me, if it has not been dug (only way to find out is to dig) you should get something.
Good looking snake that, how aggro are they ? our tiger snakes look a bit like that and they will chase and attack anything that gets near them in the breeding season out of the season they still won't back down and you have to go around them if they are on a track.

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RE: A rather interesting day - 4/25/2004 8:17:29 PM   
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Howdy Irish,these Pictures were taken at about 4' from the lens.Both the snake and the deer.Rattlesnakes are only agressive if they feel threatened or defending their den. Then lookout! the striking distance is 2/3 of their body length.Fairly docile otherwise.Not anything like tigersnakes.Are they a protected species also? From what I've seen on TV,you have a wide variety of poisonous snakes and spiders down there. Got pics?

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RE: A rather interesting day - 4/25/2004 9:28:06 PM   
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Thanks for sharing your day, Diginit. You are smart to have your camera along.

There are 6 or 8 different species of rattlesnake in California. My impression is Crotalus ruber, but that snake is restricted to the San Diego corner of California and Baja California. Photographing snakes is not as easy as snapping Bambi!

Here is a snake that Irish may recognize. This one hatched out here, though, in my incubator. It is one of the minority of snake species in Australia that is non-venomous.

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RE: A rather interesting day - 4/25/2004 10:20:02 PM   
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Howdy Harry,She's goreous.(no pun intended) Good thing red touches black on that beauty.The rattler lives on the san jose side of the santa cruz mnts.I have a pet bullsnake myself. a stucco guy thought it was a rattler and covered him in stucco.I kinda adopted him. He has grown from 12" to 38" real fast.Very tame actually.Strange for a bullsnake which are known to be agressive.




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RE: A rather interesting day - 4/26/2004 12:06:28 AM   
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Howdy, Diginit . . .

Cool bullsnake! They are good captives.

Your rattlesnake was probably a Northern Pacific Rattlesnake, Crotalus viridis sp.

I haven't kept any snakes for years, but I still like 'em. The one whose pic I posted is an Australian Carpet Python, Morelia spilotes variegata. This was an F2 (third generation) specimen, the best I ever produced. It is a northern rainforest form, but aberrant in its longitudinal stripes.

Snakes and antique bottles -- it doesn't get any better than that!

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RE: A rather interesting day - 4/26/2004 12:20:44 AM   
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quote:

Rattlesnakes are only agressive if they feel threatened

Hey diginit, does accidentally steppin on one when he is asleep qualify as threatening him? Cause in 1985, he hung a fang in me. (pun intended) Messed me up for awhile! He was what we call a Prairie Rattler. They are usually 30 to 40 inches. Hey Harry, what's the proper term for a prairie rattler? Happy diggin, Kelley

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A rainy day in maine - 4/26/2004 10:09:07 AM   
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Hi all, it is not the greatest day for digging here in westbrook maine. This is a bummer of a day. There a chill in the air. Who knows might go digging anyway.

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RE: A rather interesting day - 4/26/2004 12:13:21 PM   
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Hey, Kelley . . .

That rattlesnake that messed you up was a Prairie Rattlesnake, Crotalus viridis viridis, according to my book on Texas snakes. The viridis group of rattlesnakes includes a fair number of subspecies like Diginit's Northern Pacific Rattlesnake.

I have collected C. viridis viridis in NW Nebraska, and they range over the Great Plains from Alberta and Saskatchewn to northern Chihuahua. In Texas they occur from about San Angelo north into the Panhandle and west throughout Trans-Pecos Texas.

The venom of the Prairie Rattlesnake is more than one and a third times as toxic as Western Diamondback venom. The good news is that the venom has only about half the tissue-necrotizing effect and less than a third of the blood-destroying potency as WDB venom.

I'll bet your bite was no picnic in the park.

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RE: A rather interesting day - 4/26/2004 7:21:53 PM   
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Harry,
You're into herps,too?!?Why am I really not suprised?As I've noted before,you're definately a Renaissance Man!

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RE: A rather interesting day - 4/26/2004 9:03:42 PM   
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Ouch! Too bad you didn't step on it's head.
My next step would have had the same results I'm sure. I thought about that alot that day.You Know,Weather or not I could put my foot in my mouth to suck out the venom.
Or did I already? Anyway, sounds like you're doin' alright if your diggin again.Excellent!
I'm lookin' alot more closely at sticks in the trail.
Oh! By the way,Sorry sunshine. Looks like it would be a good day to clean the bottles you.ve already dug. Have a great day anyways!

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RE: A rather interesting day - 4/27/2004 9:33:11 PM   
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Harry, that is one beautiful snake in your first post, I haven't seen one of them in the wild the one's that we come across tend to be the unfriendly one's .
diginit, they are protected species but a lot of people shoot them anyway, I don't know why , if you leave them alone and keep an eye out for them they are fine.

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RE: A rather interesting day - 4/27/2004 11:34:47 PM   
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Kinda like Bambi, huh. Please don't get me wrong because of my last post. I love animals. I make it a point not to hurt anything that doesn't hurt me first.But if it came down to him or me I'd give no quarter.I think people just shoot them because they feel safer if it's dead.Like the California state animal.You Know,the one on our flag.The California Grizzly.Now Extinct.

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RE: A rather interesting day - 4/28/2004 1:40:22 AM   
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Fair enough if they are a problem, it's just when you get people that go out of there way to shoot them way out in the bush that seems a bit pointless.

I came across 7 Fellow Deer on sunday, they crossed the track I was on about 30 feet away then the stag spotted me and they bolted, deer are vermin in Australia but they are still nice to see that close .

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RE: A rather interesting day - 4/28/2004 10:18:10 AM   
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Irish, sounds like the White Tail deer where I grew up in NY state. It's very difficult to keep a vegi garden because of the deer. They're not very large, but awfully plentiful, and all their natural preditors have been wiped out. Here is Maine, they're much larger, and a lot of poeple hunt for years without bagging one. Our deer kill this year was way down, 27% from the average. I myself don't hunt with a gun, would rather use a camera, but I don't have a problem with those who do.

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RE: A rather interesting day - 4/28/2004 11:03:53 AM   
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Yes it was an interesting day as of yesterday. I went digging for bottles by the river. And to my surprise i fell in the river. I never got out of anything so quick before in my life. It is a better day today. I think i will stay near the house. I hope all is well with everybody.

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RE: A rather interesting day - 4/28/2004 11:05:44 AM   
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Do you suppose, Irish, that fewer animals (including pest species) will be shot now that your government has dis-armed Australians? :^(

I read that the Victoria government has proposed more "weapons control" to force sword owners to pay a $135 license fee and to keep their blades looked in safes bolted to the floor.

I didn't realize that Fallow Deer were a pest in Australia. Imported from India for hunting, I suppose. Rabbits, foxes, and water buffalo (in the north) are problems, I know -- all imported species.

Ahh, well . . . there's always the boomerang for controlling the numbers of these pests.

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