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Amber bottle with chain - 4/7/2005 7:59:58 PM    whitebeaches304   Posts: 13 Joined: 4/7/2005 Status: offline Hi, I'm so happy to have found this site. We are in the process of selling lots and lots of old stuff collected by my husband's grandmother over her lifetime. She was an A&C dealer until the age of 92 and she has a ton of things we can't identify. The bottle I hope someone can tell me about is one grandmother dug up in the 1960's at Cypress Bayou in Jefferson, TX. It is round, approximately 3" x 5", dark amber, has a glass stopper, a cross on one side and smooth on the other and is attached to a heavy chain. There is a crusty white substance on the cross side. I don't know what it is. I haven't tried to clean the bottle at all. I hope the picture can help someone tell me what it was used for and how old it is? Thanks very much. Picture reduced in size - please see Help - Using the Forum ---> Uploading a Picture - Admin Attachment (1) < Message edited by Admin -- 4/13/2005 6:36:32 AM > Post #: 1

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/7/2005 8:21:23 PM    woody   Posts: 1674 Joined: 10/29/2002 From: Gilmanton, New Hampshire Status: online Wow...... very unique. I can't say that I've ever seen a bottle like this before. If I were to venture a guess I would say that it may be a Holy Water bottle that was used for traveling. Hence, the chain. The bottle may have been hung around the neck with the chain to ward off evil spirits. Usually a cross is signified as religious in origin. Looks to be from the civil war period or before. Can you show a picture of the bottom of the bottle??? _____________________________ Woody (in reply to whitebeaches304) Post #: 2

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/7/2005 9:14:05 PM    whitebeaches304   Posts: 13 Joined: 4/7/2005 Status: offline Here is a picture of the bottom of this bottle. Thanks for any guidance. Attachment (1) < Message edited by whitebeaches304 -- 4/7/2005 9:17:50 PM > (in reply to woody) Post #: 3

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/7/2005 10:16:12 PM    lobeycat Posts: 3800 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline Jumpin Jeebus I think you may have something here white! Woody may be right about the Holy Water. I'd guess the chain went around the waist though, how long is it? The solid parts of the chain where stamped out of the hollow pieces. I don't know when that technology came about but I agree again with The Woodster, Civil War era or a bit earlier. I'd bet my hat that it's European. Italian maybe. Can you reduce the size of the picture and repost it? It's hard to take it all in and get a feel for it. Very very, cool piece. Rich. (in reply to whitebeaches304) Post #: 4

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/7/2005 10:18:44 PM    lobeycat Posts: 3800 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline Oh yeah, don't mess white stuff for now. It may be part of the bottle Rick. (in reply to whitebeaches304) Post #: 5

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/7/2005 10:22:28 PM    whitebeaches304   Posts: 13 Joined: 4/7/2005 Status: offline Here's a smaller view. Thanks for advice. Attachment (1) (in reply to whitebeaches304) Post #: 6

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/7/2005 10:46:45 PM    whitebeaches304   Posts: 13 Joined: 4/7/2005 Status: offline The chain is about 34" long. I don't know if it would have been worn around the waist because it doesn't have a latch. thanks. (in reply to whitebeaches304) Post #: 7

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/8/2005 1:32:17 AM    kumtow   Posts: 171 Joined: 5/13/2004 From: Australia. Tropical Queensland Status: offline Very very nice bottle. The white substance may be the remains of some type of paint. Could be designed to wear across the chest or over one shoulder. Looks very old as well, maybe pre 1800. _____________________________ ~Alan~ Arrgh, not another....... Holbrookes!!! (in reply to whitebeaches304) Post #: 8

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/8/2005 6:09:43 AM    bearswede Posts: 2910 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline Hey Rich... I'm thinking Spanish... Location, location, location... Ron (in reply to whitebeaches304) Post #: 9

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/8/2005 6:13:41 AM    woody   Posts: 1674 Joined: 10/29/2002 From: Gilmanton, New Hampshire Status: online I'm thinking Mexican-American war. 1848. This may have been carried on the battlefield to give last rites to fallen soldiers. _____________________________ Woody (in reply to whitebeaches304) Post #: 10

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/8/2005 7:21:46 AM    lobeycat Posts: 3800 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline quote: I'm thinking Spanish... Location, location, location... yeah but I'm Eyetalian (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 11

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/8/2005 10:29:42 PM    Bluebelle   Posts: 181 Joined: 4/16/2004 Status: offline Have to say it is one of the most interesting bottles I've seen posted! Right, don't clean it! Since it might be a religious artifact, maybe a Priest, especially an older one, might know what it is, or might know someone who is familiar with older artifacts. Some older Catholic churches or cathedrals even have their own historical museums. Thanks for posting it. (in reply to whitebeaches304) Post #: 12

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/9/2005 4:33:25 AM    bearswede Posts: 2910 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline As in Stallion!!??!! (in reply to lobeycat) Post #: 13

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/12/2005 7:58:06 PM    mole3   Posts: 5 Joined: 4/12/2005 Status: offline WHAT A GREAT BOTTLE! I agree with Woody. 1840's Mexican/american Don't let that one go cheap! Wayne (in reply to whitebeaches304) Post #: 14

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/13/2005 6:34:50 AM    lobeycat Posts: 3800 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline mole, just curious. what makes you think it was blown in pre Civil War Mexico? European origin, no? Rich. (in reply to whitebeaches304) Post #: 15

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/13/2005 7:20:18 AM    Bottle tumbler   Posts: 370 Joined: 4/5/2004 From: Noxen pa Status: offline But does the chain have the age your talking about? Not to sure about this one. I had one like this one, but no chain, same pontil, it looks mex to me. it is a holy water bottle. but the age of the chain is the key to it's age. many repros were done in the ealry years, rick (in reply to whitebeaches304) Post #: 16

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/14/2005 9:19:11 PM    Pettydigger Posts: 189 Joined: 1/2/2005 From: Southern Iowa Status: offline I guess I agree with Bottletumbler, that chain looks alot newer than mid 1800's. The glass looks very old from the pics though, the pontil mark is kinda unusual looking to me also but I am far from an expert on that era of glassIs the glass dark amber held up to a light, it looks like it has a reddish color to it on my computer, regardless of what it is or how old it is...........that is a cool bottle Pettydigger (in reply to whitebeaches304) Post #: 17

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/14/2005 11:29:40 PM    BARQS19   Posts: 433 Joined: 6/4/2004 From: Brooklyn, Mississippi Status: offline Maybe a cocaine addict had it to put around his neck and anytime he craved some he just took this little thing out and snorted it. He probably lost it on a binge one day until it was found. Can anyone think of any medicine that you would desperately need that you would have to put it around your neck? Robert (in reply to whitebeaches304) Post #: 18

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/15/2005 7:55:33 PM    KentOhio   Posts: 732 Joined: 9/13/2004 Status: offline Yours looks dark red. I saw a light blue one, same style and white stuff, no stopper or chain, sell on ebay last year. I tried to buy it... thought it was ancient Roman, lol. I remember it went for about $100, but then the buyer might have thought it was Roman too. (in reply to whitebeaches304) Post #: 19

RE: Amber bottle with chain - 4/15/2005 8:07:02 PM    David E Posts: 995 Joined: 5/24/2004 Status: offline How about the bolttle being old (maybe did not have a chain) and was added later or an old rusty chain was replaced. Dave (in reply to whitebeaches304) Post #: 20

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