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Another Repro Hartshorn medicine? - 7/3/2008 12:08:01 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5155 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320267794839&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=011 I bought this cobalt Harshorn on ebay. I have see a few of these over the years and they have always been described as handblown. It seems pretty atypical for a Hartshorn medicine, always wanted to examine one close up. Upon examining this one it is actually a machine made bottle. I'm not sure what the story behind this one is. The Crownford China Hartshorn repros are all marked. None of the examples of these I have seen have been dug. This makes me feel like its a later repro, that and the color. I think I'm going to declare it guilty until proven innocent. Anyone have any info about these? _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg Post #: 1

RE: Another Repro Hartshorn medicine? - 7/3/2008 6:25:12 PM    capsoda Posts: 7914 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Don't know anything about it but it is a very nice bottle. Love the cobalt color. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 2

RE: Another Repro Hartshorn medicine? - 7/3/2008 9:09:02 PM    glass man Posts: 1807 Joined: 1/30/2008 From: GEORGIA Status: online DO you know about the history of crownford? Are they like wheaton? I had a nice honey AMBER INDIAN KICKAPOO MED. GORGEUS COLBALT BOTTLE,wonder if they always do bottles in great colors? < Message edited by glass man -- 7/3/2008 9:11:14 PM > _____________________________ I know You've got mountains that you think you cannot climb Your skies are dark You think the sun won't shine Case you don't know The WORD OF GOD is true! ALL HE PROMISED HE WILL DO IT FOR YOU! JESUS IS THE ANSWER FOR THE WORLD TODAY JESUS IS THE WAY! (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 3

RE: Another Repro Hartshorn medicine? - 7/3/2008 9:54:29 PM    lobeycat Posts: 3800 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline The cobalt Lockport, Gargling Oil is similarly made Gunth so that bottle of yours may not be a repro. If I saw it at a flea or a show i'd probably think it was though. Crownford made a lot of things Glassman including reproduction type bottles. Below is an example. Smith's Special Elixir U.S.A. Lighting isn't ideal for taking pics at night here, but you can see it I think... Attachment (1) _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8XDgVe2EU long lost recipe (in reply to glass man) Post #: 4

RE: Another Repro Hartshorn medicine? - 7/3/2008 10:02:58 PM    glass man Posts: 1807 Joined: 1/30/2008 From: GEORGIA Status: online nice window bottles! _____________________________ I know You've got mountains that you think you cannot climb Your skies are dark You think the sun won't shine Case you don't know The WORD OF GOD is true! ALL HE PROMISED HE WILL DO IT FOR YOU! JESUS IS THE ANSWER FOR THE WORLD TODAY JESUS IS THE WAY! (in reply to lobeycat) Post #: 5

RE: Another Repro Hartshorn medicine? - 7/4/2008 9:50:58 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 5155 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline The Crownford China Co was apparently an Italian company that made decorative collectables. They made a lot of repro bottles typically in weird colors. On my repro medicine page you can see a labelled Hartshorn medicine made by them... http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/Repros/Repros.htm The cobalt hartshorn is made well and it has no marking on the bottom so maybe it is like those later Gargling Oil bottles Lobey. I need to do more research and see how late the company was selling products. Maybe it was a Centennial Anniversary promo item of something? _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to glass man) Post #: 6

RE: Another Repro Hartshorn medicine? - 7/4/2008 10:03:27 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 5155 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline According to O'Dell they used the E. Hartshorn & Sons name up until 1935 so it may be an original Hartshorn bottle. Just need to find one with a label now...  The firm of E. Hartshorn & Sons of Boston, MA made a number of medicinal products.  From the 1904 Pharmeceutical Era: Aromatic Syrup of Rhubarb, Hartshorn's Bitters (sold as early as 1876 was a labeled bitters Embossed Dr. Hartshorn's Family Medicines.-1894 also is found in a sample size), Hartshorn's Cordial, Hartshorn's Cure-All, Hartshorn's Family Pills, Liniment No. 18, and Hartshorn's Sarsaparilla (label only bottle-embossed E. Hartshorn & Sons, Boston, Mass. The company was listed as E. Hartshorn & Sons from 1867-1935.  In the later years they produced a cough balsam, diarrhea remedy, headache powders, Liniment No. 18 and a worm extract.   I also found a ketchup bottle attributed to this company. Digger _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 7

RE: Another Repro Hartshorn medicine? - 7/4/2008 11:55:41 PM    appliedlips Posts: 1703 Joined: 1/30/2005 Status: offline     It looks good to me.Maybe you beat the odds! _____________________________ I WOULD LIKE TO BUY OR TRADE FOR YOUR COLORED,AND OR EMBOSSED CATHEDRAL PEPPERSAUCE BOTTLES.I AM ALSO LOOKING FOR EMBOSSED MIDWESTERN ALES IN ANY COLOR. (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 8

RE: Another Repro Hartshorn medicine? - 7/11/2008 9:08:39 PM    JustGlass   Posts: 391 Joined: 7/22/2005 From: Green Mountains of Vermont Status: offline I saw a colbalt hartshorns in a group shop on the coast of Maine. I was thinking of purchasing it because it was a nice looking bottle and priced low at $7.00. Underneath the price it said reproduction which turned me off. Now I wished I had bought it because it was a nice looking display piece.  (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 9

RE: Another Repro Hartshorn medicine? - 7/11/2008 9:27:35 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5155 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline Did it have an actual manufacturer's tag that said repro or was it something the shop put on there? Who was determining it was a repro? Thanks for the info. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to JustGlass) Post #: 10

RE: Another Repro Hartshorn medicine? - 7/14/2008 8:34:15 PM    glass man Posts: 1807 Joined: 1/30/2008 From: GEORGIA Status: online A YELLOW WARNERS WITH LABLE WAS ON EBAY JUST A FEW DAYS AGO.YES IT WAS CROWNFORD. _____________________________ I know You've got mountains that you think you cannot climb Your skies are dark You think the sun won't shine Case you don't know The WORD OF GOD is true! ALL HE PROMISED HE WILL DO IT FOR YOU! JESUS IS THE ANSWER FOR THE WORLD TODAY JESUS IS THE WAY! (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 11

RE: Another Repro Hartshorn medicine? - 7/16/2008 11:14:02 AM    JustGlass   Posts: 391 Joined: 7/22/2005 From: Green Mountains of Vermont Status: offline GuntherHess the one I saw in Maine had reproduction hand writen on price tag. Knowing that hartshrons has repros in different colors like their greens and yellows made me believe that this one could have been although this one wasn't a family medicine like most repros I see. Always a possibility seller didn't know what he had. Im headed to Maine this weekend and if the colbalt hartshorns is still there I will purchase it and then post a pic. If it is still there it should be easy to spot as it  was beside a blue ball and claw bitters. (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 12

RE: Another Repro Hartshorn medicine? - 7/16/2008 6:15:19 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5155 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline quote: A YELLOW WARNERS WITH LABLE WAS ON EBAY JUST A FEW DAYS AGO.YES IT WAS CROWNFORD. Do you have a link for that one? I dont have one of those recorded. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to glass man) Post #: 13

RE: Another Repro Hartshorn medicine? - 7/16/2008 6:17:13 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5155 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline quote: Im headed to Maine this weekend and if the colbalt hartshorns is still there I will purchase it Even if it is a repro it would be a good deal for you since they always sale much higher than that. See if you can get the dealer info and you or I can contact them and ask how they determined it was a repro. Thanks _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to JustGlass) Post #: 14

RE: Another Repro Hartshorn medicine? - 7/20/2008 3:50:49 PM    JustGlass   Posts: 391 Joined: 7/22/2005 From: Green Mountains of Vermont Status: offline I took a ride to Maine over the weekend to hit some shops on the coast. Was held up for awhile when a boat fell off a trailer in the middle of the road on the way up a bridge. I did manage to get to the shop that had the colbalt hartshorns for sale and it wasn't there. In its place was this super nice Clevenger Bros. flask. Im not big on repros but this two tone was a beauty and followed me home. If  I run accross any info on the colbat hartshorns I saw I will let you know. Attachment (1) (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 15

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