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BOTTLE AGES... - 5/31/2008 11:50:31 PM    miker31567   Posts: 78 Joined: 5/21/2008 From: Central NY Status: offline I have been doing research trying to learn the ages of my bottles. Im kinda stuck on sut'm !!! I read a couple things that seem to be telling me that if a seam runs up the whole bottle and up over the lip that it's post 1900's, first of all, is that exactly true ? Another thing is that plate moldings(like most medicines) were from 1860's to 1915 or so. Is that true? Hope I'm not confusing anyone, I'm just a little confused myself. In a nut shell...If I have a bottle that has embossing in a plate mold, which most of my medicines do have, and the seam goes up and over the lip, could it still be pre 1900's ??? _____________________________ The Pesky Land Scraper Post #: 1

RE: BOTTLE AGES... - 6/1/2008 9:39:59 PM    poisons4me Posts: 386 Joined: 12/18/2005 From: New York,Galway Status: offline Here,try this site. I stand corrected,I don't do milks.. Hope this helps, Rick http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/bottletypes/bottletypes.htm < Message edited by poisons4me -- 6/2/2008 6:37:57 PM > _____________________________ Always buying and trading poisons,stoneware and blobs. Check out my website http://www.ricksbottleroom.com/index.htm (in reply to miker31567) Post #: 2

RE: BOTTLE AGES... - 6/1/2008 10:00:20 PM    zanes_antiques Posts: 2020 Joined: 9/3/2006 From: Steubenville, Ohio Status: offline A lot of machine made bottles are slug plate. Mainly milks _____________________________ I buy, sell, barter, and beg....Zane (in reply to poisons4me) Post #: 3

RE: BOTTLE AGES... - 7/12/2008 5:36:02 PM    RICKJJ59W Posts: 3349 Joined: 3/8/2007 From: Lehigh Valley US of A Status: offline The ABM Automatic bottle machine was fired up in 1903 when the seem goes to the top of the lip its 1903 and on,and on and on. < Message edited by RICKJJ59W -- 7/12/2008 5:37:50 PM > _____________________________ My Web Page.Lots of pix. Dig story's published in Antique Bottle & Glass Collector. New story added 9/08 www.19thcenturybottlediggers.com Digs in action. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pitpirate/ (in reply to miker31567) Post #: 4

RE: BOTTLE AGES... - 7/12/2008 6:17:18 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 4913 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online I think slug plates were used before the 1860s. You see them on many pontil marked pharmacy bottles. If the seam runs up through the lip, its almost certainly machine made post 1900. Its easy to mistake certain machine made bottles for BIM because they used a separate mold section for the lip. Those often have the seams rotated 90degs so you have to look close. < Message edited by GuntherHess -- 7/12/2008 6:18:04 PM > _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to RICKJJ59W) Post #: 5

RE: BOTTLE AGES... - 8/31/2008 6:12:55 PM    RED Matthews   Posts: 45 Joined: 8/2/2008 Status: online On this subject from 1880 to 1903 some bottles were full height which included the shape of the finish being in the bore of the mold neck cavity.  In the earlier years, this glass was hand tooled even after being molded and sometimes this removed the mold seam marks. RED Matthews (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 6

RE: Slug Plates. - 8/31/2008 6:19:45 PM    RED Matthews   Posts: 45 Joined: 8/2/2008 Status: online Slug plates were sometimes round, elliptical, rectangular, and square with beveled corners.  The removal was from the back of the mold and the change of these made the same molded bottle for several customers - each having the customers name or logo chiseled into the glass contact label area.  When I went into the bottle industry we were running HMB machine and making a lot of milk bottles.  The changeable slug plate was a lot cheaper to provide than a complete new mold set-up. RED Matthews (in reply to RED Matthews) Post #: 7

RE: Slug Plates. - 9/1/2008 1:47:05 AM    whiskeyman Posts: 2015 Joined: 4/17/2005 From: NE TENN-SW VA Status: offline For the uninitiated, it should  be noted about the blow-over mold...wherein threads were blown into the glass and the additional "blow-over" ground down to accomodate a screwcap or, a flat-fitting glass closure , sometimes polished...and  this left a seam through the lip - BUT not over it as in an ABM bottle.Early fruit jars were like this, as well as some whiskey flasks and other food containers...http://www.sha.org/bottle/glossary.htm _____________________________ * Member: Bristol Historical Assoc...and, Friends of Steeles Creek Nature Center & Park President: Bristol Tenn-Va Bottle Club Author of: Spirits & Medicinal Bottles of Bristol,TN-VA. My WebSite: www.bristol-tenn-va-bottles.com (in reply to RED Matthews) Post #: 8

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