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2008/08/17 21:25:00 (permalink)

Ball Jar question

I have not been able to find out much about bottom markings on the Ball Jars except for a number 2 ect...
What is this one for, is this to mean the number 4? or am I way off.

Thanks,

Jeff

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    jdogrulz
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    RE: Ball Jar question 2008/08/17 21:25:52 (permalink)
    another pic

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    RE: Ball Jar question 2008/08/19 06:55:47 (permalink)
    anyone?
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    RE: Ball Jar question 2008/08/19 13:32:35 (permalink)
    no one at all that can answer this one?? WOW
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    RE: Ball Jar question 2008/08/19 13:43:22 (permalink)
    On blown jars the base markings can vary widely from numbers to symbols.These markings identified the blower and team.So at the end of the day they could do a count and get paid. On machine made jars it was more of a quality control thing. Identifying a mold or machine used in a particular jar. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.  
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    RE: Ball Jar question 2008/08/19 14:25:46 (permalink)
    Hey jeff here are a few more with letters and symbols there are quite a few variations of markings.

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    RE: Ball Jar question 2008/08/19 14:26:28 (permalink)
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    RE: Ball Jar question 2008/08/19 14:27:10 (permalink)
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    RE: Ball Jar question 2008/08/19 14:28:33 (permalink)
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    RE: Ball Jar question 2008/08/19 14:38:52 (permalink)
    WOW, now thats the forum Ive known to come to love and admire!!

    Thank you all for your replies.

    First Road Dog,
    I read about what you are saying, about getting paid and all and how after the machines started then it was to identify a mold and machine, BUT, I guess what I am asking is, is this a special mark (using the Roman symbols)? I know that numbers appear but this one has NO numbers just IV.

    Second Arthur,
    Thanks again for your reply also, but as I stated above to Road Dog, and you just kinda show what I am saying is that most jars have a number on them just like yours do (oh and by the way that last pic was a 2 on the base not a 3).

    So what do ya think?

    Jeff
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    RE: Ball Jar question 2008/08/19 14:50:01 (permalink)
    one more

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    RE: Ball Jar question 2008/08/19 14:57:17 (permalink)
    I can't say about it being special or not. I can't remember seeing Roman numerals before. You're gonna force me to look at the bottoms of all my jars. Here is a pic of a blown one I have with a cross.

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    RE: Ball Jar question 2008/08/19 15:11:29 (permalink)
    Nope Road Dog Aurthur Beat ya to it...Ok thanks again guys.

    Very cool jar Road Dog!!

    Ok, that about sums it up on this one, But I have more....

    I am trying to learn as I go. I do alot of reading on this forum and also on the Historic Glass Bottle Identification & Information Website but its not that easy unless you have people like you guys helping out. The next post I will try to info one and see how I do.

    Jeff
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    RE: Ball Jar question 2008/08/19 19:40:26 (permalink)
    Here's a site I found regarding Ball(l) jars.
    http://home.earthlink.net/~raclay/DatingBalljars.HTML
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    RE: Ball Jar question 2008/08/19 20:33:29 (permalink)
    Thanks pyshodoodle but I have already read that site and have it bookmarked. It is a GREAT SITE!! And actually it was after reading that site that got me wondering about the roman numerals on the bottom of my jar. Because it talks about the #13 jar and the number 2 jar etc.... But I have found NOWHERE were they talk about numbers in roman numerals.

    Anyway just stired my curosity and thats what I love about bottles, the history, the stories etc... and investigating them.

    Well thanks again for your reply

    Jeff
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    RE: Ball Jar question 2008/08/19 21:28:07 (permalink)
    glassjunkie.coolfreepages.com/JarDetails.htm
    Here's another one. Maybe you will find something on here.
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    RE: Ball Jar question 2008/08/19 21:48:20 (permalink)
    glassjunkie.coolfreepages.com/JarDetails.htm


    I tried this site but got a "cannot display the webpage"

    Jeff
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    RE: Ball Jar question 2008/08/19 23:17:30 (permalink)
    Try again later. I was on it today, so probably a temporary technical issue... If you haven't founf this one yet, I think you'll like it. Lots of pictures of what to really look for in Ball Jars.
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    RE: Ball Jar question 2008/08/22 22:52:47 (permalink)
    Well I looked through the replies to your post and I can tell you that the circle in many of the pictured replies that have the round circle near the center of the bottom.  Those circles are all a machine mark for the settle blow air valve in the bottom center cavity of the baffle.  The baffle valve is used over the blank to supply quicker settle blow air to the cavity above the dropped gob of glass. This air pressure is needed to push the hot glass into the neckring cavity before the press plunger comes up to shape the inside of the parison before it is transferred to the blow mold.  The glass that the plunger pushes up actually lifts the valve back into the closed position in the baffle but it does leave this mark.
    RED Matthews
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