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Before and after Warners experiment - 1/25/2011 8:48:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		A while back my Dad dug a number of Warners Safe Cures out of the same hole, all with heavy patina and discoloration. I aquired one to use as a "practice bottle" while learning how to use my tumbler. I'll be the first to admit it seems to have come out almost unnaturally clean and sparkeling. We'll be putting the cleaned Warners out at the OBCA show next month, next to an identical bottle that has about the same staining without cleaning. Both will have the same asking price, and I plan on keeping track of which one gets picked up and viewed more, offers, and final sale price on both - if they both sell.

Here is a photo of the Warners before cleaning:




I will post a photo of this bottle next to it's "unclean" counterpart after the show.

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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/25/2011 8:51:30 PM   
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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/25/2011 8:55:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Another photo showing the lower embossing. This bottle will be going back in for a fine polish to remove the "smokey" haze left by the previous polishing compound.




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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/25/2011 8:59:27 PM   
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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/25/2011 9:40:09 PM   
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Interesting experiment! Are you accepting any predictions?



Of course I welcome predictions, and suggestions......

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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/25/2011 9:45:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		New and non collectors love a shinny Warner Safe and I believe it will be the Clear winner even though both are amber

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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/25/2011 10:15:46 PM   
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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/25/2011 10:17:44 PM   
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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/25/2011 10:22:45 PM   
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I'd rather have the green soda....



It got a late start and is still in the tumbler, I'll post after photo's when it is complete. Here is a quick picture of the embossing after a day of "cutting".




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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/25/2011 10:31:50 PM   
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New and non collectors love a shinny Warner Safe and I believe it will be the Clear winner even though both are amber


This should be an interesting venue for the experiment then, as our Febuary show attracts more veteran collectors than new and non collectors.

Just a note for clarity, the Warners in all three photos is the same bottle. I will post a picture of this one and the best "unclean" match during the week of the show.

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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/25/2011 10:37:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		There's some great Tamaqua bottles out there! Seems disproportionately so.. I look forward to seeing the results of this experiment with the Warnerses..

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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/26/2011 12:44:41 AM   
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There's some great Tamaqua bottles out there! Seems disproportionately so..


So far as I can tell there is only one prolific Tamaqua soda/pony bottle with three misspellings, any help with this bottle would be appreciated....






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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/26/2011 11:56:27 PM   
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Status: online 		tamaqua is about 15 miles from my place. has been dug hard over the years. it was an early mining town with quite a few different brewers. lots of colored sodas.

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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/27/2011 12:26:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the info Jim. Are these Geo. Kietman bottles pretty common then? Can hardly wait to pull it out of the tumbler and see how it turns out.

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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/27/2011 8:11:15 AM   
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Status: online 		hi donald,

i'm not one to say which particular soda is common or rare. the issue with many of the coal region sodas is the fact that the area is economically depressed. while there are many quality colored sodas from the area, it's difficult to get top dollar for any except the very top of the line bottles. is the Kietman pontiled? the locals who desire them simply won't pay as much as some buyers from other areas of the country.

i'll bet that bad boy looks dandy after a tumble..........

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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/27/2011 5:47:02 PM   
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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/31/2011 10:49:12 AM   
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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/31/2011 11:26:10 AM   
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This bottle will be going back in for a fine polish to remove the "smokey" haze left by the previous polishing compound

While admiring my growing group of nicely polished bottles I have gradually become aware that some bottles have this residiual "smokey haze" you mention.
What is your final polishing step on these stubborn bottles?

Thanks for the help,
Barbara

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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/31/2011 3:14:34 PM   
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When is the show?





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RE: Before and after Warners experiment - 1/31/2011 3:26:34 PM   
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While admiring my growing group of nicely polished bottles I have gradually become aware that some bottles have this residiual "smokey haze" you mention.
What is your final polishing step on these stubborn bottles?

Thanks for the help,
Barbara


I use the "JarDoctor's" Aluminum Oxide All Purpose Polish, usually just an additional 2-3 days is more than plenty to remove the haze left by the rougher compounds. Careful not to over polish. Occasionally I'll use Raybrite, it also does quite well and is available at any local Rock Collecting supply.

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