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Bottle Dump Advice - 1/6/2008 6:29:55 PM   
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Does anyone have any dump digging tips to share?  I went digging this weekend and have a great site, but not a lot of stuff found.  I figure you can always learn something new.  Thanks.
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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/6/2008 8:32:50 PM   
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it all depends on the dump I'd say.  There are always bottle lines or layers in the big ash dumps, depending on how they dumped.  In swampy flat areas the bottles seem to pile up around rocks and where trees had stood, as if they floated there.  In hill dumps there are large clusters at the top and at the bottom.  Dry flat areas they tended to dump in piles and the bottles piled up between the piles.  No matter where you digging look for the use layer.  The heavy ash will produce very few bottles while the use layers full of rust, dirt and other debris will also have more bottles.  If your in ash dig down and in until you hit this layer.  There may be many stacked up, use layer, ash, use layer, ash, use layer etc...  There always tend to be one use layer that is loaded in there somewhere...  Farm dumps are a trick of their own, but alway dig a little deeper in the dirt then where it seems to end...

Always make sure your layers are intact also, good white ash is a good sign that it is fresh while dark gray ash is sometimes a sign it's been dug.  Also if your finding a lot of broken stuff but not all the pieces in the same place it's another sign it's been tossed before...

Good luck, hope you hit some beauty's!


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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/6/2008 8:58:31 PM   
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Thank you Tigue.  There is some ash and then just dirt, but I need to get deeper.  I know it is a farm area and have found horseshoes.  Thanks, I think I needed a refresher course lol.  A lot of old and new stuff is mixed together.  I'll keep you posted.
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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/6/2008 9:17:11 PM   
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on farm dumps they had separate ash pits sometimes... not often but sometimes.  I would dig under the ash but only a foot tops!  Most farms dumps were just surface areas, so look for older pockets close by...To bad we cant show each other some tricks, I cant figure my butt from a privy, but have a 6th sense when it comes dumps!  there old bottles in there some where hopefully...

another tip, while not always true most farmers once they had a motor vehicle moved their dumps farther from the house.  If the dump is real far away it's likely there is not an old dump under there...

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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/6/2008 9:20:11 PM   
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Hey Laur, don't forget that when you think you've hit bottom Make Sure! Alot of times they would spread dirt or clay over a dump every so often. I guess to keep the smell down? Some dumps will have trash and then a clay cap, more trash and another cap, and so on. One dump we dug here in town actually had five clay caps and went 15 feet deep. If I wouldn't have dug a test hole through that first clay cap we may have missed all the best stuff down deeper. Even the probe wouldn't go through because it was so dense and compacted. Another thing to remember is to try and dig out and move any large rocks. Yeah, alot of times they bust things up but they can also protect things from getting broken, especially larger items like crocks and jugs. Good Luck with it! Chris

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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/6/2008 9:24:36 PM   
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No house still stands in the area.  I've found some goodies there before, though.  I appreciate you sharing your "dump secrets" with me. 

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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/6/2008 9:39:01 PM   
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Why did those people have to break everything back then? lol  A lot of kick up bottles are on the ground, a screw top gin (yuck), but a lot of pottery too.  I'll go deeper next time.

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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/6/2008 9:39:51 PM   
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no secrets, just years of second guessing!

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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/6/2008 9:49:17 PM   
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Experience is what it's all about and it's what I trust.  Thanks Tigue and Lex

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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/6/2008 11:38:41 PM   
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I dig dumps if they are 1900 80s 90s I don't dig the white ash (1920s 30s) dumps any more that chit will kill ya Shmexy hahahaha!
From what you told me about your dump,you need to dig down
as far as you can to see if it changes in age.(keep it simple),and keep them horse shoes a coming.Good Luck. Rick

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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/6/2008 11:50:22 PM   
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Horseshoes aren't all that!  lol.  I guess I can expect to find at least 2 more as I found 2 already lol.  I did find a button, and I have a thing for buttons!  Thanks Rick. 

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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/7/2008 5:27:10 AM   
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Word up sailor! lol  <~~~ Hey! that looks like someone,I just can't place who lol.

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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/7/2008 3:33:35 PM   
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Like, I said, one of the guys.  I don't know, who is it??  lol

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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/7/2008 3:54:29 PM   
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You know.

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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/7/2008 4:35:26 PM   
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i like turtles

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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/7/2008 5:45:04 PM   
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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/7/2008 5:59:09 PM   
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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/7/2008 6:25:28 PM   
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I like buttons in 150 year old chit lol

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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/7/2008 6:38:53 PM   
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yes!  I love turtles!  always happy when the turles come around... post the vid!

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RE: Bottle Dump Advice - 1/7/2008 6:45:06 PM   
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We like turtles!!!!

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