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Bottle found in Febuary - 3/22/2003 8:07:58 AM   
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Hi,
here is a story on my website for a great dig we had in Aussie land.
Enjoy.
http://www.users.bigpond.com/oz-riley/digs.HTML#warndig

Chris
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RE: Bottle found in Febuary - 3/22/2003 11:25:13 AM   
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Nice looking bottles. How far back do they date?. If they are in the river, they must be in privys too?. How about an old town dump?.
Do you have any laws about digging/collecting there?.

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RE: Bottle found in Febuary - 3/22/2003 6:31:30 PM   
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Most of the bottles pictured date from 1880' s to about 1920, the section of the river we were in was redirected in 1864 to provide water to a large factory so there would not be any bottles older than that there.
There are three town tips (dumps) in the main town, most of the early buildings are made from sandstone and the sandstone quarries when abandoned were used as the town tips, two are over 40 feet deep with buildings built over the top and one is in the sand dunes on the beach which has been extensivly dug over the last 30 years.
There would be dunny holes (privies) on the town house blocks and I have dug bottles there in the past.
Yes we have very strong Laws here under the the Heritage Act 1995, if it is over fifty years old and in the ground we have to leave it there.
Although the rivers are a grey area and we have been left alone so far..

Thanks
Chris

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RE: Bottle found in Febuary - 3/27/2003 9:23:03 PM   
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Thanks for the history...
Just a thought.....Maybe bottles in a privy are not " in the ground" but, in a cavity that was dug in the ground?. After all, if you found bottles in an old basement, they wouldn' t be considered " in the ground" . (or would they?).

Hey.......keep digging!.

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RE: Bottle found in Febuary - 3/27/2003 11:59:47 PM   
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i find it hard to believe that a 51 year old bottle could be considered an archaeological relic!! i think life has been well documented for a lot longer period of time than that.this must make it real hard for you people to get a good dig.

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RE: Bottle found in Febuary - 3/28/2003 12:57:55 AM   
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hey Lip~Ca I like that idea
the problem we have here is like the metal detectorist' s in the UK have, a small percent of arki' s want it all and they want it locked away out of the public eye.
why I don' t know and they don' t seem to have a good answer .

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RE: Bottle found in Febuary - 3/29/2003 10:14:53 PM   
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I like you line of thinking,
although the arcies here really like to protect the dunny holes as they beleive it is like a small Time Capsule of the people that lived there.
the problem is that they don' t want anyone touching them, but they have no power to stop property development, this means if a house comes down and larger building is to be built the arkies are happy to let the whole site be destroyed rather than have bottle diggers dig the site before the development starts. Weird but true, last year over a 12 month period Heratige Victoria only had one arcalogical site dug.
I do need to clarify that these Laws are for Victoria, I know N.S.W has a Heratige Act as well but I don' t know about other states.
It is not really enforced yet but I am sure they will get some digger one day and use them as an example.
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