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Busted! - 1/18/2010 9:55:01 PM    cobaltbot Posts: 3878 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: offline Took advantage of the fact that the ground around here is saturated from a year of incredible precip and since I had the day off I did a little detecting at Stonetown.  This was a small village from the early 1800's to about 1890 but all that remains today are corn and soybean fields and the buried slate community well I've posted about before.  I have found several flat buttons, three large cents, a 2 cent piece and some indian heads here in the past but today I found my first (from there) silver coin and my earliest to date.  I had just started and found half a horseshoe and in the very next hole I saw a silver edge which is usually a good sign! Attachment (1) _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... Post #: 1

RE: Busted! - 1/18/2010 9:57:02 PM    cobaltbot Posts: 3878 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: offline The reverse, pretty good overall shape except a plow scratch. Attachment (1) _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to cobaltbot) Post #: 2

RE: Busted! - 1/18/2010 9:58:41 PM    cobaltbot Posts: 3878 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: offline Here's the hole with the coin on my shovel. Attachment (1) _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to cobaltbot) Post #: 3

RE: Busted! - 1/18/2010 10:02:52 PM    cobaltbot Posts: 3878 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: offline It was a beautiful day around 50 degrees, there was 2-3 inches of mud, about 1 inch still frozen under that, then dirt.  The church is the only thing nearby.  I've written about this place before: http://www.antique-bottles.net/forum/m-77476/mpage-1/key-stonetown/tm.htm#77476 Attachment (1) _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to cobaltbot) Post #: 4

RE: Busted! - 1/18/2010 10:10:10 PM    cobaltbot Posts: 3878 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: offline Besides the 1820 capped bust dime (hence busted - sorry about that!) one other thing I found was a large utensil handle that's maybe pewter?  Its corroded but has a crown with VT or VJ under that and in little stamps the letters O HN YA TE S like it might have said John Yates?  If anyone has any thoughts on this I'd appreciate hearing them.  My first decent finds of 2010. Attachment (1) _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to cobaltbot) Post #: 5

RE: Busted! - 1/18/2010 10:11:01 PM    bottle_head9 Posts: 1148 Joined: 4/3/2009 From: new england Status: online Awsome!! (in reply to cobaltbot) Post #: 6

RE: Busted! - 1/18/2010 11:27:30 PM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9804 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: offline Well,...I don't know a whole lot about coins, but I know that's a really cool 'keeper'!,...Nice find.                                         Joe _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to bottle_head9) Post #: 7

RE: Busted! - 1/18/2010 11:59:33 PM    Jim Posts: 3628 Joined: 7/5/2005 From: Lewistown, PA Status: offline Nice Bust dime, Steve! The early Capped Bust and Draped Bust series are some of my favorite U.S. coin designs. ~Jim _____________________________ Preserving our buried history, one pit at a time. http://www.freewebs.com/lewistownbottles/index.htm (in reply to cobaltbot) Post #: 8

RE: Busted! - 1/19/2010 11:35:16 AM    beendiggin Posts: 3005 Joined: 6/30/2005 Status: offline Your fragment is from a "fiddle back" type utensil. It was an amalgam of silver (mostly) and other metals. I'm not sure where your piece was made, but if it was american, it could be termed "coin silver" as coins were used and melted down to make utensils , etc. There are thousands of different silversmiths , and sometimes tracing a piece can be pretty hard. You have some easy to read hallmarks, so you may have some luck with finding out where and when it was made. Nice finds, the coin is great. BTW, what are you using for a detector? (in reply to cobaltbot) Post #: 9

RE: Busted! - 1/19/2010 12:13:29 PM    CanYaDigIt Posts: 1004 Joined: 2/5/2009 From: Back In Sac, CA Status: offline Nice find for sure.  That's a pretty darn desirable coin, and in really nice shape.  Congrats. _____________________________ Comes a time when the blind man takes your hand, says "Don't you see" (in reply to beendiggin) Post #: 10

RE: Busted! - 1/19/2010 1:41:07 PM    RedGinger Posts: 6727 Joined: 12/7/2007 Status: offline Nice!  I'd love to find a coin like that.  I have a place near Loch Raven you could detect if you're interested.  I dug there and there is definitley old stuff, but I didn't have a detector.  It's the site of an old Livery according to Sanborn, which doesn't have much info about that area or the area beyond it.  I guess that's because it's in the country.  I'd love to see some more info about the town of Warren or a map of it. Sorry to get off track with your thread, but your coin just reminded me of a good detecting spot you might enjoy. _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyVTdY2BI3g (in reply to CanYaDigIt) Post #: 11

RE: Busted! - 1/19/2010 7:53:53 PM    cobaltbot Posts: 3878 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: offline Thanks all for the replies!  I wish I could find something Welsh there as the community was for early slate quarry workers.  Here's the other coins and flat buttons I've found there, minus a few.  I'd like to make a shadow box and put these in it with a picture of the well we discovered.  There's no known picture of the community....YET!  Like I said it was dismantled in the 1890's. Paul its a Whites XLT, ok but sometimes flaky like its operator!  Your post prompted me to do some more web searching and I came up with a John Yates, a prolific pewter spoon maker in Birmingham, England who later got into the Silversmith business as John Yates & Sons.  Still not sure what the VT stands for? Laur, I would like to hear about the Loch Raven place, all leads are potential finds! Attachment (1) _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to RedGinger) Post #: 12

RE: Busted! - 1/19/2010 9:05:58 PM    madman Posts: 10363 Joined: 2/5/2005 Status: offline hey steve great finds! i need to get one of those metal detecting  thangs,,,,,,,.............. _____________________________ always looking for, Toledo Ohio, Knoxville Tn. milks pharms and sodas, (in reply to cobaltbot) Post #: 13

RE: Busted! - 1/20/2010 12:27:01 PM    RedGinger Posts: 6727 Joined: 12/7/2007 Status: offline Steve, I sent you a PM with more info. _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyVTdY2BI3g (in reply to madman) Post #: 14

RE: Busted! - 1/20/2010 2:28:39 PM    cobaltbot Posts: 3878 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: offline Thanks Laur, you're the Bee's knees!!! _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to RedGinger) Post #: 15

RE: Busted! - 1/24/2010 10:23:02 PM    cobaltbot Posts: 3878 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: offline I did a little more detecting this weekend and this has turned into a little archeology project.  In the area near where I found the dime I think I have found the area where the Stonetown stone "apartment" building was.  I am finding what you typically find around here when an old house burns down - that is slate shingles, plaster under that, burnt wood, nails and small artifacts.  Because of many years of being plowed over I doubt I will find any whole bottles unless I can find a trash pit or privy that survived below the plow line.  What I am finding are tons of pieces that will help tell the story of Stonetown's existence.  I am finding window glass less than a sixteenth of an inch thick.  I think the aqua piece is part of a historic flask.  Attachment (1) _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to cobaltbot) Post #: 16

RE: Busted! - 1/24/2010 10:31:00 PM    cobaltbot Posts: 3878 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: offline I am finding bone and flat buttons.  I wonder if the little clear dish was a salt?  There is also the rim of a glass or wine glass that has cut decorations in it.  Although not much is whole this is still a lot of fun because of what these things can tell me about this place.  If anyone can put a date on any of the shards, please help.  Attachment (1) _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to cobaltbot) Post #: 17

RE: Busted! - 1/24/2010 10:37:15 PM    cobaltbot Posts: 3878 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: offline Here is a shard of a flat oval stoneware bottle debossed POWELL that I found there last year. Attachment (1) _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to cobaltbot) Post #: 18

RE: Busted! - 1/24/2010 10:49:23 PM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9804 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: offline Way cool artifacts!...Could the oval Powell stoneware be English?                                                                                        Joe _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to cobaltbot) Post #: 19

RE: Busted! - 1/24/2010 11:22:23 PM    cobaltbot Posts: 3878 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: offline I don't know Joe but it does seem to be a form they used more than us.  I'm also not sure about this, but it seems the Welsh were "forced" to buy all their plates, utensils, etc from England.  That's why I was thrilled a few years ago to find this tea pot lid with people in Welsh dress even though they probably still had to buy the tea pot from England.  Attachment (1) _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to JOETHECROW) Post #: 20

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