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Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/8/2011 3:23:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		I havent posted a good non-bottle related post for a while so here is my latest installment..
I need opinions from some of you bright people on ideas how to finish my basement floor.
I live in an 1790s or so stone house. The basement is currently dirt.
I have dug it out level and deep enough to make it a useable basement.
I would like to finish the floor in brick.
My question is how to best prepare the floor to do that.
Maybe put down gravel , crushed stone, sand, a layer of plastic??
Its a pretty large area with limited access so my first choice would not be pouring a slab.

Any thoughts on how to best do it would be appreciated.

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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/8/2011 4:12:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Brick sound really nice and probably cheaper than trying a stone floor like slate. Do you have problems with drainage in your basement? would you need to install something to drain water to a sump pump?

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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/8/2011 4:21:57 PM   
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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/8/2011 4:45:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hello Matt. On the this old house show the yard and garden guy said using something called ( I think) stone dust although it looks like fine gravel over a layer of 6 or 8 mil plastic sheeting would work very good. seems as though this stuff packs hard as a rock with using just a little water after haveing it spread and tamped. You can also fill the joints between the bricks with it also.........Andy

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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/8/2011 5:35:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think that is what they call crush run, crush and run, or crusher run depending on who you talk to. It does pack pretty good.
8 mil is some heavy stuff, I wonder if thats standard off the shelf?

I use a water level to level the floor. Ancient technology but works well.

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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/8/2011 5:41:26 PM   
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I use a water level to level the floor. Ancient technology but works well.

How does that work?

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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/8/2011 5:55:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Matt. Our home depot carries the 6 mil stuff in rolls about ten feet wide and twenty feet long so it would take a few rolls overlapped to cover a large area, but worth it to keep out the damp. Ya also know some of the concrete contractors have these hose pumps that can pump up to about 100 feet or so without much trouble if you use a wet mix with smaller aggregate and about a five sack mix. prolly expensive I bet.....Andy

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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/8/2011 6:13:34 PM   
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How does that work?


its basically just a long clear tube that you put water in. the ends are open. the level of the water will always reach equalibrium at both ends of the tube. it allows you to compare the height of any two points. Mine has a photo sensor on the one end that beeps when the levels are equal.

everyone wants laser levels now but I like the simple approach, plus it works around corners.
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?keyword=water+level&selectedCatgry=SEARCH+ALL&langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053


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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/8/2011 6:15:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		pumping concrete starts getting expensive. PLus i'm trying for the olden look.

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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/8/2011 7:15:21 PM   
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PLus i'm trying for the olden look.

Just through some straw down there and a couple pigs.
Friends in Germany bought an old house in the village to fix up. The basement of their house used to be the pig stye. They fixed it up very nice but I was never in there after a good rain. It might smell like pigs are still there after a good rain.

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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/8/2011 8:21:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		no thanks I have a 9 year old kid , I dont need pigs.

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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/9/2011 1:02:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Matt I think the brick floor laid in a nice herring bone pattern would look great. I hav eseen this in the basement of  afew early houses I have been in.

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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/9/2011 7:49:37 AM   
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laid in a nice herring bone pattern


Yes I'm thinking something in that direction. A few local houses have basements done like that. Looks a lot better to me than a concrete slab.


Weird, I just noticed this post is in "NEW TO THE COLLECTION" , I could have sworn I put it in "CLEANING AND REPAIRING" forum.
Admins can move if you want....

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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/9/2011 11:19:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gunth,...I did my workshop floor and patio with salvaged bricks from a defunct brickyard south of our town...bedded them in sand. It took quite a few pickup loads, (I believe Penn Digger hauled quite a few for me). Did the workshop floor with pavers, and the patio with regular building sized bricks...there are quite a few patterns and "bonds" that you can lay out easily and look great. Another alternative is "stamped" and colored concrete...They've used it in some of the historic districts around town with good effect (crosswalks, etc) I believe ajohn does some of that kind of work. It looks much better than plain old concrete.

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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/9/2011 11:30:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		I like stamped concrete but I want to do the job myself and I dont think I have the skill to do it right.

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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/10/2011 8:30:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would go with the poly vapor barrier, did it in my 100 year old basement, and it is now desert dry down there.
Brick is great, and the stone dust makes a good bed for them.
Now, one thing.  Not all brick is the same.  For a nice pattern, you want to find what is called modular paver brick.  This type of brick is made to be exactly twice the length as the width.  The guys at the mason supply yards should know what it is, I have laid thousands of square feet of this brick over the years around pools, and as sidewalks, patios, and driveways.  My home has them as the driveway, and patio.  Standard building bricks vary in width and length enough so that one has to leave a joint to keep things nice looking, the modular paver brick is laid much like the concrete pavers, no joints.
In my area, they come from the NJ Shale Brick Co in Williamstown NJ.
Autumn Blend is a nice series in that you get reds, oranges, browns and black bricks for nice color.


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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/11/2011 5:29:38 PM   
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this post has nothing to do with bottles

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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/11/2011 7:43:07 PM   
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For a nice pattern, you want to find what is called modular paver brick.



thats good to know, thanks.
We have a pretty good brick yard here in frederick.

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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/11/2011 8:26:35 PM   
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RE: Cleaning and Repairing ...my basement... - 7/11/2011 9:27:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		not too many in the basement, mostly lots of busted up early fruit jars. A couple smaller pontil marked medicines. I found a bunch of bottles under the kitchen floor when I tore that up.

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