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Cool textured bottle - 7/11/2010 8:22:39 PM    glassylassy   Posts: 8 Joined: 7/5/2010 Status: offline Found this today at a garage sale.   Thought the texture was interesting.  No traces of a label, but it looks like it should have had one.  Any clues on origin, use, or value?  Thanks! Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: Cool textured bottle - 7/11/2010 8:24:00 PM    glassylassy   Posts: 8 Joined: 7/5/2010 Status: offline A closer look at the texture.   Attachment (1) (in reply to glassylassy) Post #: 2

RE: Cool textured bottle - 7/11/2010 8:24:51 PM    glassylassy   Posts: 8 Joined: 7/5/2010 Status: offline And a look at the bottom.  This may not be very old at all, but it doesn't have a screw top, so just wondering.  Thanks. Attachment (1) (in reply to glassylassy) Post #: 3

RE: Cool textured bottle - 7/12/2010 1:53:28 AM    Wangan   Posts: 1136 Joined: 12/4/2009 From: Northern Maine Status: offline I found a bottle with the similar texture,only it has a flask type shape with a rubber stopper.I think it came from Canadian garbage dumped next to a railroad trestle.I have no idea what either of these bottles were used for,but mine is ABM (automatic bottle machine) made because the seam goes through the lip and although worthless,I kept it because it was cool. Attachment (1) (in reply to glassylassy) Post #: 4

RE: Cool textured bottle - 7/12/2010 1:55:22 AM    Wangan   Posts: 1136 Joined: 12/4/2009 From: Northern Maine Status: offline Here is a sideshot to show the shape.It has a clear front for a label. Attachment (1) (in reply to Wangan) Post #: 5

RE: Cool textured bottle - 7/12/2010 2:02:50 AM    Wangan   Posts: 1136 Joined: 12/4/2009 From: Northern Maine Status: offline That mark on the bottom is an Owens Illinois mark.Im not sure which number means what,but it looks like it is a 1930-37 bottle or 1930-present.Here is a link,but I have seen a better site that shows which number is designated for but I dont have it. http://www.angelfire.com/tn/traderz/owens.html < Message edited by Wangan -- 7/12/2010 2:04:34 AM > (in reply to Wangan) Post #: 6

RE: Cool textured bottle - 7/12/2010 2:08:33 AM    Wangan   Posts: 1136 Joined: 12/4/2009 From: Northern Maine Status: offline Here you go.This link shows which number is the plant,date,etc. http://www.fohbc.com/PDF_Files/Owens-Illinois_Lockhart.pdf (in reply to Wangan) Post #: 7

RE: Cool textured bottle - 7/12/2010 2:22:43 AM    Wangan   Posts: 1136 Joined: 12/4/2009 From: Northern Maine Status: offline Darn edit time limit. It looks like you have a bottle that was made in Fairmont West Virginia anywhere form 1930- present.Without a label its just another pretty "slick".Mine doesnt have any Owens mark,only a tiny 1,so I have to think it came from Canada because of the garbage I found it in came from there. _____________________________ http://youtu.be/e4ujS1er1r0 (in reply to Wangan) Post #: 8

RE: Cool textured bottle - 7/12/2010 8:08:33 AM    whiskeyman Posts: 2420 Joined: 4/17/2005 Status: offline Wangan...yours is a "typical" ammonia flask shape. It's possible the OP's is ammonia as well. GlassyLassy...forgot my manners - Welcome to the Forum !!! < Message edited by whiskeyman -- 7/12/2010 8:09:19 AM > (in reply to Wangan) Post #: 9

RE: Cool textured bottle - 7/12/2010 12:56:43 PM    glassylassy   Posts: 8 Joined: 7/5/2010 Status: offline Thanks so much for all of the great information!  Everyone here is so helpful and you really know your stuff.  I've picked up a few other things I might have to bother you guys about!  Thanks for the welcome, Whiskeyman, it's great to be here! (in reply to whiskeyman) Post #: 10

RE: Cool textured bottle - 7/12/2010 1:19:57 PM    L C   Posts: 3208 Joined: 3/17/2007 From: Ohio Status: online Looks like an amonia bottle wangan . Oops sorry , didn't see Whiskeyman's post ! < Message edited by L C -- 7/12/2010 1:21:55 PM > (in reply to Wangan) Post #: 11

RE: Cool textured bottle - 7/12/2010 6:42:52 PM    RED Matthews Posts: 2268 Joined: 8/2/2008 Status: offline So this is to tell you a little more about that bottle texture.  The first one had to be chiseled into an iron mold.  The two halves of the first mold had to be laid open and bolted to an L shaped right angle iron bracket on a ball vise. A ball vise has a half round lockable ball of steel.  The first half of the mold was bolted to the L bracket by a bolt in the threaded pick-up hole in the top of the mold.  From there the mold maker had to transfer the pattern onto a painted, machined and polished mold cavity.  Then he could start chipping the iron away - the female of the ridges you see on the bottle.  From there he had to do the other mold half.  After that he would put the mold halves together with the bottom plate - put a chain clamp around the mold halves and pour the cavity full of molten sulphur.  After the sulphur cooled he would take the chain clamp off and open the two mold halves from the standing bottle shape and lift it off the bottom plate.  Now it was necessary to study the design on the sulphur and no doubt also have it inspected; to make sure all the detail was there and suitable to the design needed on the glass bottle. This was not a cheap mold set, but the rest of the set could have been Deckeled into the rest of the set on a flexible pantograph machine.  Even then the mold halves would have to be moved, so the follower and the tool could extend into the cavity, to do the job of machining the detail. A set run on a DG (double gob) machine would have had to have had at least 36 molds.  So there, some more of my TMI.   RED Matthews < Message edited by RED Matthews -- 7/12/2010 6:43:17 PM > _____________________________ http://www.bottlemysteries.com/welcome/ (in reply to L C) Post #: 12

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