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Couple of nice very historical Baltimore flasks.......a... - 9/11/2011 5:11:39 PM   
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Here are a couple of nice early Fells point Baltimore historical flasks for those that care about these types of bottles.Both bottles Commemorate George

Washington with a figural bust and both have the Washington monument located in Baltimore on them.Determining the age of the flasks is quite easy as

both monuments on each bottle are void of  Washington's statue affixed at the top.The  Monument was partially completed in 1825 10 years after its

inception although a statue of Washington himself was soon to come.These bottles were made between 1824 and 1829 just a few blocks South and

East from the monuments site,fore in November of 1829 Washington's statue was finally placed atop the long shaft seen today.Later bottles from the

Baltimore glass works and also from these Fells point works have Washington on the monument making them easier to date also. Both bottles are listed

as scarce, are a pretty shade of light green,have busts of Washington not seen on like bottles and have  rough pontils.The color is what really sets these

off. I have two sets of each bottle in my collection as the other two are aqua in color.OK.................................



That's the good news, now for the more somber news from my perspective.This has been building for quite some time.I joined this forum in 2007 I

believe and I went by the name sewellbottleman.My original reason for coming to this place was to rediscover my early bottle collecting hobby which

dissapeared with the advent of early adulthood and all that comes with it.There were members going by the forum names Capsoda,Whiskeyman,

Guntherhess,Flashenjager,Baltbottles and BRIAN S. that were extremely helpful to me in my quest for information.They answered every question I had

proposed promptly and professionally and I am forever grateful to these gentleman for making my stay here a good one.Some of these members are

gone from the forum others check in now and then and some are regular quite active members to this day.All of you should be thankful for them for

should they leave you wont fill their shoes anytime soon.



I have had my ups and downs here.My username got banned for posting pictures of misfits in Walmart.I lost all of my posts

deservedly so because of it and I was just starting to come into my own at this place.Losing all the posts was really tough to

deal with at the time.I rebounded and put it behind me and continued to write about historic glass. From my own

perspective I always envisioned this place could have become a living historical pictorial, electronic, archive chock full of

informative glass news,Pictures of great bottles,and stories told by other collectors filled with informative exciting bottle

news.



Sadly for me it has never achieved this.When I construct my sometimes long winded posts at this place  a lot of work and

time goes into creating them and when know one is responding it is apparent I am preaching to the choir.I know there are

other members here with very similar collecting tastes like mine but I would have  never known as virtually no one except a

small handful of members have either thanked or responded in some fashion.I posted in this section because of the

relevance of the title and its description as why to post here in the first place.


I had always hoped other members would come on here in this section of the forum and just sit down and tell us a good

historical glass related story or give us information as to what to look for when looking or digging bottles.This section is

described as follows  by the forum designers. Antique-Bottles.Net is supporting this Historic Glass Bottle Identification &

Information Website by Bill Lindsey and Members who would like to contribute their knowledge and expertise can do so

here. I have never had Bill Lindsey the man behind this section come onto any one of my posts and either correct me,just

add too the conversation or congratulate or scold me.I couldn't tell you if the man is still alive or not.Maybe he gave up also

for lack of interest.This is the least visited section of the forum and 95 percent of the posts are mine


Guys and Gals,

I was never seeking thanks or accolades for any of this,nor am I looking for any PLEASE STAYs or we will miss you.I was

just seeking camaraderie and good glass banter.I now know unfortunately the time has really come to saying goodbye to

all of you.When you are ignored it is worse then being chastised. At the end of the day I am sad and disappointed things

never really worked out for what I trying to accomplish in this section  of this web site.I have left the forum before in the

past and came back again hoping to spark some new interest or change.This time it feels different to me  as the fires of

passion have been pretty much extinguished.For those of you who may have enjoyed my posts get involved and share your

own thoughts make the place interesting for if you don't members will leave and you will have nothing more then a glorified

Facebook environment.Some words of wisdom to some of you,spend most of your time at this forum in the bottle

sections,the General Chat although mostly good can be very devise and will turn members against members because of

politics and religion when before their most common denominator was the love of old glass.

Cheers, and may God bless each and every one of you today and the rest of your collecting careers!! ......I can still be

emailed if any of you want a second opinion on a bottle which may not be your strong point.




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RE: Couple of nice very historical Baltimore flasks....... - 9/11/2011 5:13:11 PM   
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RE: Couple of nice very historical Baltimore flasks....... - 9/11/2011 5:13:43 PM   
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RE: Couple of nice very historical Baltimore flasks....... - 9/11/2011 5:14:12 PM   
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RE: Couple of nice very historical Baltimore flasks....... - 9/11/2011 5:15:45 PM   
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RE: Couple of nice very historical Baltimore flasks....... - 9/11/2011 5:17:59 PM   
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8.This is tough for me my last picture here guys.....................later




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RE: Couple of nice very historical Baltimore flasks....... - 9/11/2011 5:32:19 PM   
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I hate to see you leave Steve, it has always been enlightening and enjoyable to read your posts and get your historical perspective. Even though they didn't pertain to my area of collecting I really enjoyed each and everyone of your posts even though I didn't always take the time to respond. I have always hoped to see your own personal museum someday and I still hope that day comes, you'll be missed by me and many others here....

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RE: Couple of nice very historical Baltimore flasks....... - 9/11/2011 5:55:35 PM   
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I have always enjoyed your posts, and like Jim says, don't always have the time to post a reply.
I have had many posts go by without much comment but I always assumed that folks do not have time or are not really interested in what I posted. Of course, my posts are not the caliber of yours.

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RE: Couple of nice very historical Baltimore flasks....... - 9/11/2011 6:10:19 PM   
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Oh no not another one leaving and crying the blues on the way out?
ya know, I am getting sick of people who say they are leaving but never relay leave. They stay off ABN for a while,but they are not  really gone,they are watching the thread to see if people say"ohhh man don't go bla bla bla ill miss ya mann wa w a wa"  im sick of this baby 6th grade crap.just come out and say it,you want people to like you,you want them to marvel over your knowledge of bottles,you want  to be recognized,don't we all. You don't see me crying when people dont reply to my threads,well once in a while, but im not going to leave the forum over it for gods sake.
   So what if the number of people who chime in on your threads is not to your liking? it is not all about  bottles,it is about people who talk to people about life and other fun crap! its the internet man!
  You are not the only one who "left and came back" there are many others,and it gets sick-a-ning after a while.
  When I decided to leave, if I ever do, you will hear the wind,not a word out of my mouth,like I said before I could give a rats ass what people think.  Oh yeah its 911 shouldn't we all band together ? 
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RE: Couple of nice very historical Baltimore flasks....... - 9/11/2011 7:38:19 PM   
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Steve , Good luck to you in your future quests. You have a amazing glass collection that I would be proud to own.  I really miss that long bubble EG Booz that you ended up with that I found in a group shop in Arundell Maine and foolishly sold on ebay. I wish I had half the knowledge of the history of these bottles that you do.............................................................................................             .................................................................................................       I wish you the best with your bottle hunting ventures, gary

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RE: Couple of nice very historical Baltimore flasks....... - 9/11/2011 8:28:05 PM   
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Hey Steve, you should go out with a bang.. post some really raunchy photoshops and get yourself banned!

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RE: Couple of nice very historical Baltimore flasks....... - 9/11/2011 8:39:33 PM   
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Hey Steve  dont get me wrong I like you,just stating the fact.
Now stop reading this your gone right?


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RE: Couple of nice very historical Baltimore flasks....... - 9/11/2011 8:49:45 PM   
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....uh..I...mmmHmm.. believe I get the point of all of this now. If you'll endulge me, all of you:

We all want to be appreciated, we all want a nice pat on the back now and then.. we like to feel like someone else is thinking about us. We also are prone to taking for granted the friendships and companionship.. the trust.. which keeps this forum up and running day after day. It's a social thing we do here, isn't it? Now I realize many others come and read what we write and don't utter a peep, which is fine. Many of US, however, can't wait to see who wrote what on which post, day after day, sometimes minute to minute.. sad, lonely people like myself.. who feel happy and well when someone reaches out through cyberspace and says: "..(something nice..).."

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RE: Couple of nice very historical Baltimore flasks....... - 9/11/2011 9:18:29 PM   
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Now, I can understand wanting a little recognition from time to time. And I have always respected your knowledge and collection, Steve. But I think you're acting very childish by leaving.

Are you posting these threads to contribute to the knowledge of others, or to make yourself feel better? I can't contribute to the threads you make, because you know so much about the bottles! What could I post, besides "nice bottle"? Obviously many others have viewed your threads, the hit count is over 200 on most of your recent threads! These people have nothing to contribute to your thread. I have learned a lot from your posts, and I'm sure others have as well. Your service in old glass is irreplaceable. You are the only one that consistently posts such interesting glass. If you leave (or pretend to leave), that's your choice. I just don't think there's anything we can do to contribute to your discussions.

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RE: Couple of nice very historical Baltimore flasks....... - 9/11/2011 9:41:35 PM   
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I think its really a misconception that this forum could or should be used as a repository for serious glass research data such yours.
The forum has always been more of a social gathering place/ entertainment venue.
I made that determination long ago and that is why if I am going to post anything interended for future reference I do it in my own web space. I have also found that the number of people who only view what we publish will always be vastly greater than those who comment. I think its part of human nature that there are always many more voyeurs than participants.
I do however often get emails from people who say they read and enjoy what I post and I appreciate hearing from them.
What you post is great stuff and well thought out but honestly I think this is the wrong place for it.
I would recommend you create your own BLOG page. It is not difficult and I think it would be a much better application of your time and energy. Plus, YOU would control the content and site, something you dont have here (nothing bugs me more than not being able to go back and fix something I posted in error). You can do as I do and post a link here every so often when you make updates.
Best of luck man.

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RE: Couple of nice very historical Baltimore flasks....... - 9/11/2011 10:17:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cyberdigger

....uh..I...mmmHmm.. believe I get the point of all of this now. If you'll endulge me, all of you:

We all want to be appreciated, we all want a nice pat on the back now and then.. we like to feel like someone else is thinking about us. We also are prone to taking for granted the friendships and companionship.. the trust.. which keeps this forum up and running day after day. It's a social thing we do here, isn't it? Now I realize many others come and read what we write and don't utter a peep, which is fine. Many of US, however, can't wait to see who wrote what on which post, day after day, sometimes minute to minute.. sad, lonely people like myself.. who feel happy and well when someone reaches out through cyberspace and says: "..(something nice..).."


yeah that's kind of what I meant


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RE: Couple of nice very historical Baltimore flasks....... - 9/12/2011 5:09:08 PM   
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All of you unknowingly proved my point in this matter being discussed.Lost in your responses in this post are two not seen often, very historical flasks from Baltimore that none of you made mention of .We have many Baltimore area based collectors here at this forum and I find it hard to believe I am the only one who collects these flasks or other historical flasks in general.Why wont one person ever come on and say yeah I have that flask also in blue or whatever. I can count the members on one hand that have openly discussed historical flasks with me.Don't get me wrong I have had great discussions with people far more knowledgeable then myself at this forum and that's all I want from this but the ratio is very skewed against me.

I appreciate all of you as I know you are the regular contributors at the forum and more people should get involved like all of you......Let me ask you all a question and answer it honestly please No sarcasm.Yes this means you Chuck and Rick. How many of you would come home from work every day, try and strike up conversation with your spouse,girlfriend,parent, friend whomever,would want to tell any one of these people what you just learned at work or in school and you were ignored,flat out ignored virtually every time.Wouldn't you at some point say to yourself hmm its pretty obvious this person does not want to have a conversation with me why do I keep trying to have one with them when it is not reciprocal.Why should I divulge information about something I researched when again its almost never reciprocated by anyone else.What I get more often then not is the challenge that I am wrong in my information which is often I admit,but at least I have the balls to post something with relevance to our hobby and hang my reputation with it. Funny Although at least when I am getting my chops busted someone is expressing themselves and their own views to me which is better then being ignored.

You don't have to own any of the glass I talk about to show an interest in it.They are for the most part according to our ancestral glass historians the pinnacle of our hobby. Is it because you didn't know about it,or you don't collect it,its not your thing or don't find them appealing,or is it you just dislike the person posting them and refuse to be engaged in the discussion. I think it is a little of all of the above.The friendships acquired here at this forum are great but at the end of the day I come to this place to...... 1st  help others  make informed decisions 2nd share my knowledge and 3rd  be able to discuss glass related topics , soak in information I was deficient in and see other peoples collections,and last, learn from people much higher up the glass collecting chain something I am yearning to do so fri--ging bad I can taste it

.I do not come here to be pat on the back,that is the furthest thing from my mind.I don't want people to think I am a glass guru and they should bow down to me or my thoughts and I  also don't think I am acting childish, a little p i s s e d maybe. I only  announce my intentions to forewarn closet followers......I am not a rich man, I am a working man, a regular guy just like most of you. Good advice Matt (Guntherhess) maybe one day....maybe....Jim stay dry and thanks for checking in it does matter,ditto's Gary thanks for the kind words, Rick check your basement for water I see more rain in your forecast just kiddin......,Conner stay hungry for glass and the knowledge that goes with it.... try and be a little less personnel judgmental in regards to others.... words can hurt as much as actions and actually are remembered longer.Melinda you are the epitome of CLASS, I'll always help you and Chuck I'll still talk to you on the cell phone when you want to....Lakewood hasn't changed much as of Last Friday For now..This is me     Dennis Leary says it best.TURN IT UP    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX4hN2KAaww



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RE: Couple of nice very historical Baltimore flasks....... - 9/12/2011 5:30:23 PM   
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