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Crown tops VS Hutch bottles - 1/10/2007 12:45:30 PM    frank   Posts: 544 Joined: 3/13/2005 Status: offline I cant figure why they make  hutch bottles in my area when crown tops and blobtops were already around . Is hutch bottles more southern then northern areas. Does anyone from mass  have any hutch bottles .  Can you post a pic!!! Post #: 1

RE: Crown tops VS Hutch bottles - 1/10/2007 4:28:07 PM    capsoda Posts: 7407 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Hutches were first marketed in the mid 1880s and crown top bottles around the early 1890s. The crown cork cap for crown top bottles were in vented three years after the bottle. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to frank) Post #: 2

RE: Crown tops VS Hutch bottles - 1/11/2007 8:15:19 AM    Sam_MaineBottles Posts: 343 Joined: 4/5/2004 From: Mid-coast Maine Status: offline   Here's a pic of a Hutch I have from Mass - it's from the American Bottling Co. of Springfield. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Author of 'Maine Bottlers and Their Bottles, 1840-1980' (in reply to frank) Post #: 3

RE: Hey Sam on the Hutch bottles - 1/11/2007 10:31:37 AM    frank   Posts: 544 Joined: 3/13/2005 Status: offline What size is the hutch bottle ?The one i found is small hutch are there two size of hutch bottles around!!!! Do they have any value?? (in reply to frank) Post #: 4

RE: Hey Sam on the Hutch bottles - 1/11/2007 8:04:55 PM    Sam_MaineBottles Posts: 343 Joined: 4/5/2004 From: Mid-coast Maine Status: offline Hi Frank - The American Bottling Co. hutch is 7.0 inches high which seems to be a typical size for hutches here in the Northeast..  All 25 known hutches from Maine are 6-7.5 inches high and usually 6-8 oz. in capacity.  There are some hutches from other parts of the country that come in quart size. Value can range from $25 to $250+ for Maine hutches, I'd guess Mass prices would be similar. Later - Sam _____________________________ Author of 'Maine Bottlers and Their Bottles, 1840-1980' (in reply to frank) Post #: 5

RE: Hey Sam on the Hutch bottles - 2/4/2007 12:23:42 PM    WMassPete   Posts: 31 Joined: 3/7/2006 Status: offline Hutches were generally for soda - I think that  sort of stopper could withstand a higher pressure than a blob-top type closure - but not sure - soda has a higher pressure than beer (it took nearly 20 years longer to sucessfully can soda than to can beer) - blobs were usually beer - but sometimes have other things in them - (not counting all those goofy Citrate bottles - which have every sort of closure imaginable) - Ive got a few hutches from Mass...I never thought they were worth more than similar blobs ...maybe I should start buying em more.....but yah..I dont think Ive dug a whole one.....funny..... (in reply to Sam_MaineBottles) Post #: 6

RE: Hey Sam on the Hutch bottles - 2/4/2007 4:06:42 PM    zanes_antiques Posts: 1973 Joined: 9/3/2006 From: Steubenville, Ohio Status: offline I have dug 1/2 pint, pint, and quart hutches. Are there 1/2 gal. hutches? _____________________________ I buy, sell, barter, and beg....Zane (in reply to WMassPete) Post #: 7

RE: Crown tops VS Hutch bottles - 2/8/2007 2:51:39 PM    #1twin   Posts: 311 Joined: 5/25/2006 From: Biloxi Ms Status: offline Frank,  I had two Barq's hutches, 1 from Biloxi and 1 from Gulfport Ms. The man that wanted them, took $500 off my bill, after removing tree's downed from the Hurricane. He was later offered $800-$900 for the two at a show. He has promised to sell them back to me for the $500 if he no longer wants them. Just so happens that might be this afternoon when we do some trading. Some hutches go for less than $10 and some bring good money. Hope this sheds some light on your question. Thanks,  Marvin (in reply to frank) Post #: 8

RE: Crown tops VS Hutch bottles - 2/8/2007 6:51:35 PM    tombstone   Posts: 124 Joined: 12/21/2005 From: wv Status: offline There are over 15,000 varieties of hutch bottle, so unless there is a great demand for a particular variety (such as the coke) they are pretty reasonably priced.  This will probably change once the project to catalog them has been completed. (see http://www.seattlehistorycompany.com/HBDHutchBook.html for more details) After a comprehensive guide is published more and more collectors become interested and this is reflected in the price. (in reply to #1twin) Post #: 9

RE: Crown tops VS Hutch bottles - 2/8/2007 7:28:22 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 4486 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline I wish they would reconsider and do a CDROM version. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to tombstone) Post #: 10

RE: Crown tops VS Hutch bottles - 2/8/2007 8:21:29 PM    baltbottles   Posts: 809 Joined: 11/25/2002 From: Baltimore Maryland Status: offline Hi Frank, I think the reason why Hutch's lingered after the crown top was widely available was because many smaller bottling company's couldn't afford to buy the newer filling and capping machine required plus the investment in all new bottles would have been expensive. There is a Hutch from Washington DC dated 1914 and I know there are many places that used blob beers up until about 1915 There is even a machine made blob beer from Baltimore. And the Crown cap was invented here and widely used by the mid 1890s. Chris _____________________________ Please visit my website at : www.geocities.com/baltbottles/index.html (in reply to frank) Post #: 11

RE: Crown tops VS Hutch bottles - 2/9/2007 12:21:14 AM    capsoda Posts: 7407 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Hutches were used by Hygiea Coca Cola in Pensacola, Fl until 1924. That is the year the last batch of hutch soda water bottles was ordered. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to baltbottles) Post #: 12

RE: Crown tops VS Hutch bottles - 4/4/2007 10:13:11 PM    whosyerdaddy   Posts: 190 Joined: 2/25/2005 Status: offline baltbottles hit the nail rite on the head.  there wasn't really any kind of cutoff period tween hutchies and crowns.  the little guy bottling out of his shed just didn't have the investment capital to switch.  then again alot of those small bottlers went the way of the small milks, they got bought up by the big boys. whosyer (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 13

RE: Crown tops VS Hutch bottles - 9/10/2007 12:21:47 AM    hemihampton   Posts: 125 Joined: 10/6/2006 Status: offline If my memmory is correct a guy named Painter invented the cap/crown top in 1892. But it did not seem to go into wide spread use until the early 1900's? LEON. (in reply to whosyerdaddy) Post #: 14

RE: Crown tops VS Hutch bottles - 1/18/2008 3:00:07 PM    BARQS19   Posts: 433 Joined: 6/4/2004 From: Brooklyn, Mississippi Status: offline WOW I haven't been on here in a long time. This is in reply to your Barq's hutches. You have three styles. A Biloxi Artesian Bottling Works, E.Barq Prop., a Then a Barq's Bottling Works Gulfport, Miss. Then you have the third and more rarer hutch that says Biloxi Artesian Bottling Works E. Barq Biloxi, Mississippi. The first Biloxi is worth $150, the second goes for maybe around $200, they use to go for around $350 but I'll get to that. The third one, that says Mississippi is worth maybe around $500, I paid $400 for mine and it's the nicest we've seen so far. A lot of the others are damaged. Only a few are known. So depending on which ones you had you did good selling them for $500 unless it was the rare one. Since the hurricane A LOT OF BARQ'S HUTCHES HAVE TURNED UP. I've been running ads in the Sun Herald for about a year after the hurricane and EVERYONE found a hutch. One guy had 10, another guy had around 20. Now, personally, I wouldn't give $50 for one since so many's been found but then again the market hasn't been flooded yet. Since it's a local item, people tend to hang onto it. BARQS19 (in reply to hemihampton) Post #: 15

RE: Crown tops VS Hutch bottles - 1/25/2008 8:05:33 AM    buzzkutt033   Posts: 264 Joined: 12/17/2007 From: East Penn Township Pennsylvania Status: online i only have two crown tops in my collection .......... here's one Attachment (1) (in reply to BARQS19) Post #: 16

RE: Crown tops VS Hutch bottles - 1/25/2008 8:12:31 AM    idigjars Posts: 1284 Joined: 12/24/2004 From: Michigan Status: offline Hi Buzz.  Neat pic, is the top of the stopper marked Hires?  Thanks for sharing your pic.     Paul (in reply to buzzkutt033) Post #: 17

RE: Crown tops VS Hutch bottles - 1/25/2008 5:24:06 PM    buzzkutt033   Posts: 264 Joined: 12/17/2007 From: East Penn Township Pennsylvania Status: online no, top of the porcelain plain white. can't have everything, where would we put it all.................. Jim (in reply to idigjars) Post #: 18

RE: Crown tops VS Hutch bottles - 2/10/2008 11:36:27 PM    glass man   Posts: 710 Joined: 1/30/2008 From: GEORGIA Status: offline BEfore I knew any thing much about hutches,I sold a near mint quart lime green hutch from PENN YAN, NEW YORK  for $30.AS I made the deal ,a person walked by me and whispered he would give me $75.I knew then I had messed up,but sold it to the person the bottle for $30 as agreed on.I thought it was the right thing to do.Last I heard a few years ago the guy that had offered me $75 said the person I sold the bottle to ,was offered an INDIAN QUEEN BITTERS for it and turned the offer down! OH WELL! _____________________________ Well,People can you feel it? Love is every where.People can you hear it,Love is in the air? WE'RE in a revolution.Don't you know we're right! Everyone is singing.YEAH There'll be no one to fight! LOVE IS EVERY WHERE! ~ALLMAN BROS.~DIG IT ! (in reply to buzzkutt033) Post #: 19

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