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Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/22/2005 2:47:35 AM    RazorsEdge   Posts: 238 Joined: 5/8/2005 Status: offline This sucks....looks like im tossin a lot of stuff....This link goes to a site that has many bottles listed that are not worth anything....Is your favorite on there? hope not.... http://www.antiquebottles.com/common.html Post #: 1

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/22/2005 7:13:48 AM    Tandy   Posts: 279 Joined: 6/19/2004 From: Netherby, South Australia Status: offline And they are the embossed, named ones.... _____________________________ Today is the day I will find those goodies just waiting to be found ..... Lots of luck digging! Tandy, Netherby, Adelaide. South Australia. June National http://www.angelfire.com/rock3/rickirving/AHBC.html (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 2

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/22/2005 8:43:54 AM    diggermeister Posts: 149 Joined: 5/3/2005 From: North Carolina, USA Status: offline Well, this opens up a real "can (or should I say) bottle of worms"; First, one must decide why they collect? Is it for the potintial value of the bottle? Our is it because they LIKE it? I personally love the hunt. Digging for bottles is a great meditation for me. The idea of discovering the past really gets me going. I would be lying, though, to say that I do not dream of finding that very rare and very valuable piece. It has been said, and I agree that, "something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it". Just look at the, "Sodas..." forum for the thread titled, "$200 bottle cap" for a great example of this theory. The list (link) shown above, which I have seen before, is based on OPINION. Encluded in it are many bottles that are fun to own and nice to look at as well as exciting to find. I would not mind adding a few of the ones listed to my collection. I also believe that making a blanket statement like, "all screw tops are worthless" is rash and down right silly. I have included a photo of a dreaded screw cap that I recently dug up and then sold on eBay for $42.00, hardly "worthless". (Pictured is a Zippo Fluid Refill Bottle circa 1940). According to the 'list' I sould have just thrown it back in the hole. I kept it because it was interseting to me. I did not know at the time that it was a sought after collectable. I just thought it was cool. I don't, I can't, keep EVERY bottle I find. If I did I would be up to my elbows in glass. But I refuse to let some arbitrary list dictate to me what I sould and should not collect. Please, don't get me wrong. These type of lists and, certainly, published 'guide books' etc. are important to establish guide-lines to aid the collector. However, thay are NOT the absolute last word! OK, I'll get off of my soap box now. But, remember it's NOT about what a bottle may be $worth$ but, how much you value the experience of ownership. Attachment (1) _____________________________ If I Wasn't Crazy; I'd Go Insane, GARY http://groups.yahoo.com/group/federal_law_forbids_bottles (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 3

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/22/2005 9:46:12 AM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1458 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline Hi digger , I don't think Reggie's list is telling you what you want or should collect. I believe it is a list for newbie collectors to use as a reference on a bottle they may have found or are thinking about purchasing. I see nowhere in his page saying " It's worthless throw it back in the hole " . But , rather that these bottles in the list are very common and not desirable to most of general public and most collectors......not that people can't or shouldn't add them to his or her collection if so desired. As the ole' saying goes " Different strokes for different folks " ! Reggie's site is one of the best on the net ! Brian _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most ! Please visit my website at : www.bandbantiquebottles.com ( closed for a reconstruction ...should be back up soon ) (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 4

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/22/2005 9:48:39 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 4486 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline That list has a lot of exceptions to it and could mislead novice collectors. For example Duffy Whiskey bottles from Rochester ARE pretty worthless in medium amber but Duffy Whiskeys from Baltimore or odd color ones can be sold for a lot more than a dollar. There are certainly a lot of Heinz bottles that are worth keeping. At best it is a list of some bottles that could be considered common. < Message edited by GuntherHess -- 5/22/2005 9:50:02 AM > _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 5

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/22/2005 10:01:16 AM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1458 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline Your right ! But , the list is a generalization . If you listed all variants and color variants of common bottles the list would be HUGE and it would take years of research. The list I think hits it about right ....and yes there are exceptions. But , the color variants are very rare and thus that's why the Bigger value ! I don't believe the list should be the one and only reference used in value . A person should come to this GREAT site and double check on a bottle ..... before tossing it back in the hole ! Brian _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most ! Please visit my website at : www.bandbantiquebottles.com ( closed for a reconstruction ...should be back up soon ) (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 6

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/22/2005 12:16:04 PM    diggermeister Posts: 149 Joined: 5/3/2005 From: North Carolina, USA Status: offline Hey all, I was hoping that there would not be those who took my above comments the wrong way. I never meant that the site mentioned or any other, was to be disregarded, disrespected or otherwise just plain "dissed". I often refer to the above site (altough I'm not on a first name basis with the gentelman) as well as many others and find them most useful and informative. In fact, if you read my previous post, I think there is a great service to be found in these "guides". I am, myself, just now in the beginning stages of research for my own guide to, "Federal Law Forbids..." post~prohibition liquor bottles. My point was in reference to the title of this thread, "Did you know your bottles may be worthless?"; I advise ALL to collect what YOU like. 'Value is in the eye of the bottle~holder'! THANKS, GARY _____________________________ If I Wasn't Crazy; I'd Go Insane, GARY http://groups.yahoo.com/group/federal_law_forbids_bottles (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 7

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/22/2005 12:28:03 PM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1458 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline Hey digger , I didn't in any way want to come off like I was jumping you or that I was saying you were dissing his site ! I appologize if it was taken that way ! I just wanted you to know that his site is very imformative to newbies. You are correct about value is in the eye of the beholder . But , the beholder can't get his 1.00 bottle to sell on the bottle market for 1000.00 . I think Reggie's site is refering to the bottle market and not sentimental value. That doesn't mean that a 1.00 bottle can't be priceless to you personally . But on the market it's still just a dollar bottle ! You see what I'm trying to say ? He good luck with your collecting and if I run across any federal law forbids bottles I will send them your way. Brian _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most ! Please visit my website at : www.bandbantiquebottles.com ( closed for a reconstruction ...should be back up soon ) (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 8

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/22/2005 1:03:41 PM    diggermeister Posts: 149 Joined: 5/3/2005 From: North Carolina, USA Status: offline Thank You Brian, No offense was taken. I believe that we are essentially saying the same thing... Frankly I was shocked, yet happy, that the Zippo bottle I dug up went for that much. And, it was not just one collector. It had four different bidders for it. My point (besides the top of my head) was; "anything is worth ($$ wise) exactly what someone is willing to pay for it". Sentiment not withstanding...GARY _____________________________ If I Wasn't Crazy; I'd Go Insane, GARY http://groups.yahoo.com/group/federal_law_forbids_bottles (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 9

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/22/2005 1:15:27 PM    RazorsEdge   Posts: 238 Joined: 5/8/2005 Status: offline I did not mean worthless to you.....I meant worthless as in you couldnt get a dime for it. Almost all my bottles are worthless because im kinda just starting out, but thats okay i still like them..... (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 10

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/22/2005 2:40:18 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 4486 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline A good example of why you need to look closely at every bottle... A junior collector brought in a seemingly common White House vinegar bottle he found beside the road to our bottle club meeting. Everyone looked at it and said OK nice... Until one person noticed to didnt say Vinegar it said Venigar and thus was a pretty rare item. I would have probably picked it up and thrown it back in the woods if I dug it. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 11

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/22/2005 4:33:10 PM    RazorsEdge   Posts: 238 Joined: 5/8/2005 Status: offline That is why i bring most of my finds home unless they are jars because half the time you think something is worthless at first but then you wash it and find embossing that you hadnt noticed before....I love it when that happens (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 12

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/22/2005 9:04:43 PM    whiskeyman Posts: 1919 Joined: 4/17/2005 From: NE TENN-SW VA Status: offline Over the years I have noted a lot of things once deemed worthless slowly come to have collectible value. The most recent is, the collecting of throw -away soda bottles from the 1960's...Some collectors feel they should remain thrown away . Others predict they will be re-thrown away. I feel that is a bit harsh, as all bottles have their niche in the Hobby...some may not have found it yet...but they will. As for Reggie's site...it is a generalization list of common bottles. Reggie has done significant things for the hobby over the years...He built & maintains the website on his own...he publishes an email/snail mail newsletter...he has served in assorted capacities in the Hobby...and is a nice guy I'm glad to say is my friend....(I ain't slamming anyone, just making a statement)... The problem lies not with his list but with the mentality of some of the "serious collectors" who specialize...ie...collect bitters, sarsaparillas, cures, historical flasks, poisons, etc , etc...a single specific category. ( Not maligning anyone here, but making a general observation). Some look down upon any bottle that is machine made....some look down upon any bottle that isn't pontilled....I recall when ACL sodas were taking off...many predicted they wouldn't last. Screw caps?...forget it....those too ,are worthless to many. Label only bottles? At one time, those too were looked down upon...didn't matter if they were BIM or ABM...not worth collecting was the opinion of many... Some years ago I met with a couple of guys in the hopes of beginning a bottle club. One brought a digging scrapbook...the other brought his soda & milk bottles. The first guy had dug with the John Ryan soda collectors and had some great pics of early blob top colored sodas they had dug... His attitude towards the collector of milks and crown top sodas? "We throw stuff like that back in the hole." Needless to say after that day, the soda/milk collector wouldn't talk to me....took about 8 years to get him to "come out" again. Anyway: my point is everything has worth - whether in your eyes or in the eyes of another...and we all need to respect those who collect, no matter what they collect. It's all about the Hobby and not about any one person or category of collecting interests. Another thing, I think may have been said earlier:...Collect what you like and you'll never be disappointed. < Message edited by whiskeyman -- 5/22/2005 9:13:55 PM > (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 13

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/22/2005 9:11:52 PM    woody   Posts: 1524 Joined: 10/29/2002 From: Gilmanton, New Hampshire Status: offline Well said, Charlie. _____________________________ Woody (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 14

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/22/2005 9:15:44 PM    whiskeyman Posts: 1919 Joined: 4/17/2005 From: NE TENN-SW VA Status: offline Thanks WOODY... (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 15

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/22/2005 9:23:57 PM    diggermeister Posts: 149 Joined: 5/3/2005 From: North Carolina, USA Status: offline Very well said, Whiskeyman!!! _____________________________ If I Wasn't Crazy; I'd Go Insane, GARY http://groups.yahoo.com/group/federal_law_forbids_bottles (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 16

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/22/2005 10:13:02 PM    Trying not to break it Posts: 2033 Joined: 12/18/2004 From: balt. md. Status: offline hi everyone, i happen to go digging today after reading the post and checking out the site. i found my 1st bottle of sauer's extract, which is one of the bottle's listed. i brought it home. it's embossed and a nice shape. i have lots of mccormick spice bottles but this is the 1st sauer's. maybe it depends on where you live? happy digging and collecting, rhona ps. gary i found about 8 federal law bottles. it's going to be slow cleaning as some have remeans of paper or foil labels. so i'm trying to clean some dirt to see if i can tell what's on them. will post when i can. (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 17

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/23/2005 12:10:05 AM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1458 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline Well said Charlie ! That's why they make Chocolate and Vanilla ! _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most ! Please visit my website at : www.bandbantiquebottles.com ( closed for a reconstruction ...should be back up soon ) (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 18

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/23/2005 2:14:12 AM    madman   Posts: 4424 Joined: 2/5/2005 Status: offline ok everone does not have a 1860s dump!! i have a dump that dates to the early 1900s so thats what i collect, the bottles may be common, but to agree with the miester its like meditation!!! i love being out side, and i love finding bottles no matter what the age or value happy diggin yall mike (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 19

RE: Did you know your bottle may be worthless? - 5/23/2005 4:21:29 PM    TheDiggerBoy91   Posts: 609 Joined: 10/11/2004 Status: offline Must agree...I collect stuff all the way up to the 50's and in some cases, even up until the 70's. I say, if times have changed since it was made, it's considered an artifact and should be collected!! (in reply to RazorsEdge) Post #: 20

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