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Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/24/2008 8:41:06 AM   
JustGlass

 

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Status: offline 		I recently purchase this open pontil Doct. Marshall's bottle and I have a couple of questions. Ive seen and owned many of these snuff bottles but Ive never seen one with embossing like this one. Is this a older version? I have a open pontil one that just says Doct. Marshall's Snuff and the glass doesn't even compare to the crudness of this bottle. Ive seen two bottles that appeared to be smaller in size and they only had the word aromatic on the face. Both were dug and both were broken. Does anyone know when Doct Marshall bottles first went into business?





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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/24/2008 8:41:52 AM   
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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/24/2008 8:42:41 AM   
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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/24/2008 5:26:49 PM   
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I have a couple of questions. Ive seen and owned many of these snuff bottles but Ive never seen one with embossing like this one. Is this a older version? I have a open pontil one that just says Doct. Marshall's Snuff and the glass doesn't even compare to the crudness of this bottle. Ive seen two bottles that appeared to be smaller in size and they only had the word aromatic on the face. Both were dug and both were broken. Does anyone know when Doct Marshall bottles first went into business?



Yes, that is the earlier variant and is much more uncommon.  It is first listed as being advertised by Druggist Charles Bowen in 1837 (O Dell 2000).

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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/25/2008 7:40:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the info GuntherHess. I was surprised
to find no info on Doct. Marshalls Snuff on the net. I know they sold a ton and where quite popular in the past. Do you know what state and town the were manufactured in? Ive run accrossed a few with labels in the past and Im sure that info was probably listed on them but I never took the time to read the label.

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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/25/2008 8:10:43 AM   
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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/25/2008 9:21:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have him listed as early as 1829 and 1830. The DOCT. is an older one I'm sure.G. Marshall 92 Genesee St. Utica, N.Y. 

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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/25/2008 10:50:17 AM   
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That sure is a pretty bottle.....love the whittle on it. When I was digging in Sacramento last year in the original flood lines(1850-1860) all the medicine bottles looked like that. It is a clear indicator of the earliest variants of the bottle.
I found a Doct. Marshall's snuff, no other embossing on it that was only 2" in size with open pontil as well.

Nice one!
Doug

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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/25/2008 11:54:46 AM   
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I'm sure.G. Marshall 92 Genesee St. Utica, N.Y.


According to ODell it was originally formulated by Dr Marshall of Middlebury VT. It was sold by several proprietors the first being Charles Bowen. One labelled address is No. 1 Cornhill Boston. 



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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/25/2008 12:03:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		oops! Pulled out my latest Digger Book now too. You are correct. I found where it read just that. I'll have to see if I can hunt down some advertising stuff on that one.

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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/25/2008 8:40:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Found ad     Dr. Marshall's Headache Snuff 50 cents a bottle. This is 1835.

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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/26/2008 2:36:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nice bottle, great find.  Utica, NY?  Headache snuff?  Please do tell more, very interesting.



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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/26/2008 6:30:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Utica N.Y. may be a different Marshall? There are alot of Marshall ads pre 1840. Kinda hard to tell between them. Diggers book states it has a pleasant flavor and it's immediate effect, after being cured, is aggreeable. 

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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/26/2008 7:47:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		    That is one, killer, little bottle.I am far from an expert but a rolled lip would be odd for a 30's medicine.It still looks alot earlier than the common mold.Congrats

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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/26/2008 8:14:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		True rolled lip seems to be more 1850's thing and up to 1870.

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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/26/2008 8:54:20 AM   
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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/26/2008 1:56:42 PM   
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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/26/2008 2:08:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Heres a pic of my other Doct. Marshalls open pontil. The glass doesn't appear as old.




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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/26/2008 2:11:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		This Marshall's I have is one of the newer version.




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RE: Doct. Marshall's Varient - 9/26/2008 3:13:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Kool! I wonder if they were part of the Food and Drug crackdown. Curious to see what was in this stuff or snuff.

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