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Early Southern New Jersey 16 ribbed Sugar Bowl 1810 to ... - 5/17/2011 8:20:58 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline I have finally picked up an early sugar or other utility type bowl with the original round final top intact. This piece is flawless except for a good amount of base wear and 5 potstones, four of them located in the in the bowl and one in the lid.The off hand glass always proportionally has a greater amount of potstones then the general glass works output.The piece was made in the early 1800s based on the lack of an applied footing seen on the earlier colonial era pieces.This piece I gave to my wife and she is slowly starting to appreciate the older glass as long as it is not a bottle!! The color is a nice green aqua and could have been made at any number of the glass houses here in Southern New Jersey.The pontil is rough,deep and conical shaped suggesting the German gaffer influence again.There are 16 ribs swirled to the right and the top fits quite snuggly suggesting a conscientious worker made this piece.The bowl stands five and three quarters in height and is also five and three quarters round at the widest point.The top has a folded over lip and over all the bowl is very symmetrical in shape.The design of the cover reminds me of a Garden Gazebo roof. Attachment (1) < Message edited by Steve/sewell -- 5/17/2011 8:22:07 PM > _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen Post #: 1

RE: Early Southern New Jersey 16 ribbed Sugar Bowl 1810... - 5/17/2011 8:22:53 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 2. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 2

RE: Early Southern New Jersey 16 ribbed Sugar Bowl 1810... - 5/17/2011 8:23:46 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 3.The top cover. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 3

RE: Early Southern New Jersey 16 ribbed Sugar Bowl 1810... - 5/17/2011 8:24:41 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 4.A close up of the folded lip. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 4

RE: Early Southern New Jersey 16 ribbed Sugar Bowl 1810... - 5/17/2011 8:25:51 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 5.Looking down into the bowl. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 5

RE: Early Southern New Jersey 16 ribbed Sugar Bowl 1810... - 5/17/2011 8:27:32 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 6. A view of the inside of the lid.You can also see the potstone near the center of the lid at 7 O clock position. Attachment (1) < Message edited by Steve/sewell -- 5/17/2011 8:28:31 PM > _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 6

RE: Early Southern New Jersey 16 ribbed Sugar Bowl 1810... - 5/17/2011 8:29:05 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 7. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 7

RE: Early Southern New Jersey 16 ribbed Sugar Bowl 1810... - 5/17/2011 8:29:49 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 8. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 8

RE: Early Southern New Jersey 16 ribbed Sugar Bowl 1810... - 5/17/2011 8:30:13 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 9. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 9

RE: Early Southern New Jersey 16 ribbed Sugar Bowl 1810... - 5/17/2011 8:31:22 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 10. The next three pictures are of the base.There is quite a bit of base wear which I was glad to see. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 10

RE: Early Southern New Jersey 16 ribbed Sugar Bowl 1810... - 5/17/2011 8:31:47 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 11. From this view you can see how deeply conical the pontil is on this bowl. Most older American made glass sporting this type of pontil was usually done in the German Palitinate fashion.This is a good way not only to tell the age of any early piece but which ethnic influence was responsible for the making of it. Attachment (1) < Message edited by Steve/sewell -- 5/17/2011 8:35:30 PM > _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 11

RE: Early Southern New Jersey 16 ribbed Sugar Bowl 1810... - 5/17/2011 8:36:00 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 12. Last one. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 12

RE: Early Southern New Jersey 16 ribbed Sugar Bowl 1810... - 5/17/2011 9:06:04 PM    Staunton Dan Posts: 2251 Joined: 5/5/2005 From: Batesville, VA Status: offline Steve, I noticed with interest that your early sugar looks a lot like the small pontiled, ribbed bowl that I bought last year. It too has a rolled over lip and stands 3-1/2" high. The only thing that I am missing is a top. I thought that maybe mine was a modern reproduction but now I am not so sure. What do you think? Could this be the real deal? Attachment (1) _____________________________ Just when you think that you have life figured out, someone changes the rules. (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 13

RE: Early Southern New Jersey 16 ribbed Sugar Bowl 1810... - 5/17/2011 9:26:43 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Dan the neck on yours is different,is there a lot of wear on the bottom? One of the ways to tell the the Mexican or other type of reproductions in circulation is does the ribbing go under the bottle or does it stop short of the the bottom.If the ribbing goes under the bottle it is most likely an original as the repros I have seen have the swirls fade into the side the wall.  _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Staunton Dan) Post #: 14

RE: Early Southern New Jersey 16 ribbed Sugar Bowl 1810... - 5/17/2011 9:38:00 PM    Wheelah23 Posts: 4294 Joined: 8/9/2010 From: Glen Ridge, New Jersey Status: offline Wow Steve, that is a beautiful piece of glass. The quality of your finds never ceases to amaze me. _____________________________ Looking for bottles from Glen Ridge, Montclair, Bloomfield, Orange, East Orange, West Orange, South Orange, and if I like 'em, any other bottles from Essex County NJ! Also Manahawkin NJ! Message me if you want to find them a new home. (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 15

RE: Early Southern New Jersey 16 ribbed Sugar Bowl 1810... - 5/17/2011 9:46:08 PM    bostaurus Posts: 2299 Joined: 2/17/2009 From: Madison, Wisconsin Status: offline Very nice...and very smart to give it to your wife... _____________________________ Always looking for veterinary bottles, American and foreign. (in reply to Wheelah23) Post #: 16

RE: Early Southern New Jersey 16 ribbed Sugar Bowl 1810... - 5/17/2011 11:52:04 PM    epackage Posts: 9831 Joined: 5/3/2009 From: Jersey Status: offline Steve I hope to some day see your whole collection in all it's glory at your museum....Jim _____________________________ I WANT PATERSON NJ BOTTLES !! Being NICE for the SAKE of OTHERS !!! (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 17

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