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Ebay second chance scam - 3/7/2005 11:59:58 PM    appliedlips Posts: 1592 Joined: 1/30/2005 Status: offline I heard about this particular scam on this or another site,where an email is sent entitled Ebay.They tell you they are the seller and and are offering you a second chance purchase for the price of your bid.Then give you a different email address and and try to get you to send them money.It happened to me today,they really messed up because I won the auction so I knew it wouldn't be the seller.They are targeting high priced auctions.My earlier lower bid on this bottle was over $1500 so it would of hurt.I am sure this is working for them,as many people would be anxious to get a second chance.The best way to protect is if you receive an email like this.Write the seller from your Ebay page and ask if they sent the message.Doug Post #: 1

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 3/17/2005 3:48:22 PM    grdigger35   Posts: 161 Joined: 2/23/2004 From: Northern Michigan Status: offline Doug, I just had one today supposedly from PayPal saying my account was scheduled for maintenance. When you open it, it looks exactly like the PayPal login page. If you type in your password, you've been had. Fortunatley, the account guard warned me. _____________________________ Dale Stannard (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 2

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 3/18/2005 6:15:08 AM    WhiteLighting Posts: 485 Joined: 1/21/2004 From: The Electric City,Upstate NY Status: offline If you check the FBI's site,they have a up to date list of this type of scam,... the ebay/paypal scams are getting a bit o real,......i know abit about computers and scripting/Html etc etc ,but the emails are getting tooo good,... if you feel if you have been taken ,dont sit around take action! _____________________________ It's time for another TEA PARTY!!!! (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 3

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 3/18/2005 12:44:49 PM    Mainepontil Posts: 215 Joined: 1/11/2005 Status: offline I got a second chance email a few weeks ago. I'm friends with the seller so I knew it was bogus. I played dumb and told the guy I wanted it. I figured I would mess with him so I said my name is Foops Yabe (which is Ebay Spoof backwards) and listed ebays address as mine. So he still sent me an invoice with and address in England to send Western Union. So here it is. Cristian Sawel 42 Weston Street London, SE1 3QD United Kingdom Perhaps some of you English members can go there and do some investigating. Break a few legs or something He tried to get me for $4000.00. Joel _____________________________ Dig it NOW....before a housing development is built. (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 4

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 3/18/2005 5:46:28 PM    Gidday Posts: 125 Joined: 7/3/2004 From: Nassau, Bahamas Status: offline Believe this is the site Whitelighting is refering to. http://www.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp < Message edited by Gidday -- 3/18/2005 5:50:07 PM > (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 5

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 3/29/2005 10:54:53 PM    topsites   Posts: 1 Joined: 3/29/2005 Status: offline Yes I was recently runner-up on an expensive item and can confirm this scam as I've been receiving SEVERAL emails/day concerning this 2nd-chance offer. It appears bidding on ebay also increases phishers spam as my ebay/paypal fraud mail has increased. Now if the offer were genuine and the actual seller of the item truly wanted to offer the item to the runner-up because the number 1 bid didn't pan out, they could (and likely would) easily do this from within My_Ebay which would also extend Ebay's consumer protection, such as is not the case with 'Question from ebay member.' But, I did not know this and it caught me off-guard as I had bid 1400 and this was my first hi-price bid of any kind, I was a bit disappointed when I lost but o' well. Still, when the scamspam came around, it is a good thing I am keenly aware of these scammers as I see the crap everyday, and I don't hand over my money that fast, so I caught it in time, but still... I do wonder thou, why are people doing this crap? Best of luck, and don't fall for it! Pascal (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 6

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 4/10/2005 1:19:52 AM    Bottleman Posts: 851 Joined: 9/3/2004 From: Central Pennsylvania Status: offline Hello. If you receive an e-mail from pay-pal or ebay that you are questioning if its real or not I personally found a way to figure out if its real or not. Click of the link in the e-mail and it should come to a page with a login screen. Type your username in but DON’T type your real password in. Just type in any word that comes to your head in the password box. Even though it’s not your real password, if it’s a spoof e-mail it should accept it anyways and take you to the next page where they will probably want your credit card info. If it’s a real ebay or pay pal e-mail it will tell you that you have entered an incorrect password. Hope this helps, Tom (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 7

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 5/11/2005 6:05:57 AM    RazorsEdge   Posts: 238 Joined: 5/8/2005 Status: offline You guys you guys, listen.....Ebay and paypal and all that good stuff will ABSOLUTELY NEVER send you an email asking for personal information. EVER. If you get an email asking even for your name, ignore it. If there is a problem ebay and paypal will alert you when you actually go to the site. ESPECIALLY NEVER answer an email with the subject "ebay safe harbor" or whatever....Its kind of ironic actually and its a very convincing scam....says theyve detected suspicious activity on my credit card and they need my info to verify and stuff....they even have the link in text as the REAL site but instead it takes you to a diff one....make sure it always has ebay.com in it. JUST FOLLOW ONE RULE...DONT ANSWER ANY EMAILS, NO MATTER WHAT...IF YOU ARE CONCERNED THAT THE EMAIL IS LEGITAMITE THEN GO TO EBAY.COM AND FIND THE ACCOUNT THEFT SECTION IN HELP, GO TO LIVE HELP, AND TALK TO SOMEONE TO FIND OUT IF THERE REALLY IS A PROBLEM. Good luck and i hope that helps cuz the first time i got this i sent them back an email that basically said F--- YOU but then i got worried because they were persistent so i went with it and ended up losing my email of 4 years, and getting an ATV listed on my freakin name...yeah....so...just dont answer em. (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 8

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 5/11/2005 6:24:33 PM    DiggerBryan   Posts: 803 Joined: 12/3/2004 From: Ohio Status: offline Hey RazorsEdge, my grandfather made the same boo boo. I list his milk bottles for him frequently and when I signed in on his ebay name to list some bottles, I noticed he had an ATV for sale. I was like wtf? It was crazy, made me do some thinking. I had a heck of a time getting everything back to normal. I had to change passwords for almost everything. Luckily his paypal password wasn't the same as his ebay password. (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 9

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 5/11/2005 7:38:16 PM    warith   Posts: 67 Joined: 2/1/2005 From: Australia Status: offline The simplest and most reliable way to handle these queries is simply to open a second browser window and go to the web site fo rthe company in question. Eg when you get an email that's perhaps from Paypal, in a 2nd window, go to "www.paypal.com" and login. Then Paypal's web site will tell you if there are issues. Companies with serious security concerns, eg Ebay and Paypal, say that thay never send emails like this, which is true. However they do send similar emails with things lke warnings that your account's security may have been breached & etc. As a result it's always good knowing a way to check the authenticity. For the technicaly savvy amongst us, viewing the email's source code (most phisihing emails are written not in normal "text" but in HTML, like a web page) wil help to understand exactly how your information could be abused. Here is a terrific resource on Scams and Phishing: www.fraudwatchinternational.com/internet/phishing/protect.shtml < Message edited by warith -- 5/11/2005 7:36:21 PM > _____________________________ regards Warith www.geocities.com/newtown_bottles/newtown.html (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 10

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 5/11/2005 11:24:56 PM    grdigger35   Posts: 161 Joined: 2/23/2004 From: Northern Michigan Status: offline If you get one of these emails, just forward the message to spoof@ebay.com or spoof@paypal.com. They will get back to you very shortly and tell you if it is a fraud or not. _____________________________ Dale Stannard (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 11

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 7/19/2005 11:53:20 AM    fredfam1951@gmail.com   Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2005 Status: offline I was scamed by this in June 05 for $1000.00 The address for mine was Steven Gerard 70 Lower Marshal London UK SE17AB I wrote Scotland yard, but it was a week before the bombings. I figure they got bigger things on their hands now. But something is going on in that SE1 area. We also got George Stam as a name, and Jessika Gerard. Yahoo address jess-prodctie29@yahoo.com My map search, the closest thing I came with that code was Lower Marsh. (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 12

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 12/4/2005 7:42:38 AM    crkgrl   Posts: 137 Joined: 11/20/2005 From: Kentucky Status: offline A friend of mine got scammed, big time, on what appeared to be a second chance offer from ebay. The scammer's name was: MARCEL DAVID DETROIT, MI. My friend was not very familiar with ebay. What was sent to him looked exactly like an ebay offer and touted all the Ebay safeguards. He sent the money. You know the rest. He called Western Union, who said this was becoming a fast favorite of ebay scams. Sadly, he had emailed ebay early on in the process, with questions. However it took Ebay several days to get back to him and tell him it was a scam. By then it was too late. < Message edited by crkgrl -- 12/4/2005 7:44:11 AM > (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 13

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 1/9/2006 5:12:24 PM    Bottleman Posts: 851 Joined: 9/3/2004 From: Central Pennsylvania Status: offline I am sorry to hear that happened to your friend. I absolutely HATE e-bays customer service! Ever time something goes wrong and I have to ask them a question, I will get an automatic computer response that says my question will get answered within like the next 24 hours. Half of the time I never get a response. I don’t understand why they don’t just take a little money out of their billions and hire an over the phone customer support team. I have been a member of eBay for over 5 years and occasionally still run into problems where speaking to a real person would clear things up in a matter of minutes. I feel bad for the new comers on eBay that need the real help with all of there questions and have to deal with the online support. ~~Tom (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 14

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 1/10/2006 1:34:08 AM    southern Maine diver Posts: 1436 Joined: 8/13/2005 From: South Berwick, Maine USA Status: offline MainePontil... Hey Joel... I was reading this thread and remembered that Rick Carney got a similar "second chance" offer information. He had listed that super rare Hayden bottle for me. We had a high reserve on it and the auction went off and it didn't meet reserve. Then this same scumbag scam artist sent some "second chance" offers to a couple of people who contacted Rick! Anyway, I can't even re-list this bottle on E-bay now cause some of the previous bidders will think that the "scam" is comming back around. I guess I'll have Heckler or Pacific Glass Works put it in one of their auctions. Do you have a preference to who you would go with? This is a beautiful piece and I know that it should be in a top notch Stoddard or New England glass collection in a nice display case!! Wayne (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 15

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 1/10/2006 1:57:35 AM    capsoda Posts: 7718 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Watch out for scams like that comming out of Nigeria. Nigerian scams usually pertain to items worth large sums of money and special bank drafts. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 16

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 1/10/2006 3:36:34 PM    southern Maine diver Posts: 1436 Joined: 8/13/2005 From: South Berwick, Maine USA Status: offline Hey Warren... Believe it or not, that particular group is responsible for a lot of thefts right here in the good ole continental US of A!!! Big into shoplifting and credit card scams... I took many training seminars when I was an investigator and let me tell you, they are rapant! They get caught, deported and another takes their place... makes you sick. Wayne (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 17

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 1/24/2006 2:19:36 PM    bottleboy311 Posts: 173 Joined: 11/22/2005 From: Central Florida Status: offline The problem with these second chance scams is it makes people not want to buy from you on a legitimate second chance. There are items I sell on ebay, like toys that got from a toy store that closed in the 70's. I have duplicates and some items I have a couple dozen. All the same item and all mint in the box unused. The item will be bid up and after the auction closes, I offer the same item to the second bidder. In this way, I do not have to relist. But very seldom do I get takers. 1) They are afraid of scams we talked about. 2) They think that you had some one bid the item up. The answer is if you get a second chance offer, email the seller through ebay's message service. If they respond, that they have a second item or the high bidder fell through you know it is on the up and up. Another thing is try not to pay using Western Union. The paper trail poor using Western Union. Use Paypal if you can. The newest scam, this going againist sellers, is paying more than the invoice of the item. When selling a high priced item, particularly internationally, the buyer may pay you more than they owe. Sometimes 2 or 3 times the amount of the purchase, ussually paid in a money order. When they relize they over paid, or you tell them, they say cash the money order and sent the over payment back to me in a money order, and keep $10.00 for all your hassel. If you do this you can be in trouble for money laundering. Send the money order back and ask for one with the correct amount. Lee _____________________________ I was feeling sorry for myself because I had no shoes. Than I met a man who had no feet. So I said, .............. "Freind, can I have your shoes?" (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 18

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 1/24/2006 4:56:44 PM    Mihai   Posts: 276 Joined: 1/3/2006 Status: offline Hi, Even if I used to live in London until two months ago I don't know the SE1 area. But I checked on Net and I found out that 42 Lower Marsh seems to be a building called Capital House where it's an University and who knows what else. A funny thing is the name used for the other scam: Steven Gerard. This will work for any other country than England as there is a very big soccer player in here with that name. It's like getting mail from Mickey Mantle. It must make you think before answering. This scam in which somebody ask you about your detaills is quite common here, in UK, but is used usually to find out the bank details. You get an email asking you to confirm your account number, password and other staff and when you use the link provided you are sent to a fake site that looks exactely like the real one. You can check if it's real by simply closing that page and going to your bank page other ways or by calling them on the phone. Even so your bank will never ask for your full password but only, lets say, second and fifth characters. Be aware, be very aware! _____________________________ Mihai This whole worlds wild at heart and wierd on top (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 19

RE: Ebay second chance scam - 1/29/2006 2:24:09 PM    crkgrl   Posts: 137 Joined: 11/20/2005 From: Kentucky Status: offline It does appear that Ebay could spend a little money and have a better and possibly "live" customer service department. Once my friend finally got ebay customer service, of course they wre very speedy on the damage control. The whole thing made me sick to my stomach. Like my friend who got scammed, guess I was a little niave. (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 20

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