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Embossed mustard barrels - 10/8/2011 5:55:17 PM   
SC pontil collector

 

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Status: offline 		II wonder if I have been posting for embossed (pontiled would be great) barrels on the wrong forum. Probably posted 5 different times in the bottle forums, never had a reply in quite sometime.
Does anyone on this forum have any embossed mustard barrels they would like to sell or trade?
Thank you,
sc pontil collector
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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/8/2011 8:24:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would say that the bottle forums are ONE correct place for your posts, I have seen them but have none to sell or trade. I also believe this forum is alright for the same post, certainly doesn't do any harm. I have a couple of nice looking unembossed, non-pontil barrel mustard bottle / jars hanging around but they are pretty common and I'm sure nothing you would be interested in.

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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/8/2011 9:58:58 PM   
SC pontil collector

 

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Status: offline 		Thank you for replying about the mustard barrels.
I collect embossed smooth base and especially pontiled barrels. I have been for many years. They don't come up for sale too often. I have some doubles and I would either trade or buy ones that I don't have.
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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/9/2011 2:13:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Being you collect mustard barrels , I thought I would show you the one I have . I do not want to sell it , but wanted to show it to you in case you did not have or heard of one of them . Regrettably The embossing is weak , and I was unable to get a good shot of it . It is embossed on the front - Giessen's Union Mustard - on the back of it is an embossed eagle .




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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/9/2011 10:42:16 AM   
SC pontil collector

 

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Status: offline 		Hi LC,
The Giessons are one of the most popular embossed mustards to collect. That looks like a nice one. Is it pontiled or smooth based?
There is a another embossed one that has an oval on one side and the other side says GIESSONS/ UNION/ MUSTARD. There is yet another almost like the last one, but the embossing is not in an oval. They come pontiled and smooth based as well.
There are some with just an eagle on both sides with no embossing, but are attributed to Geissons as well.
I think someone told me that Geisson sold out to Gulden because Gulden took over making his mustards at Geisson's address.
Thanks for sharing your Geissons, hang on to it.
sc pontil collector

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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/9/2011 3:11:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the history on that jar SC , I never knew anything about it till now . I assume the bottom is a smooth base . It kind of kicks upward in the middle , but is smooth . If you are able , post a pick of your barrel collection , I would like to see it . Sounds impressive . LC

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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/10/2011 6:20:14 AM   
SC pontil collector

 

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Status: offline 		Hi LC, I don't have a large mustard collection because they're hard to come across. I don't live in an area anymore where there are bottles shows. I am disabled just enough where I can't really travel any great distance. Hoping both of the above will change soon.
I think I have about 20 different examples.
I do see on ebay some embossed mustards, but mainly unembossed examples for sale. Rarely do they come up on the large auctions like Glass works, Hecklers, etc. Most embossed ones are French. The French had a wide distribution of mustard in the U.S.
Most mustard manufactures back then were relatively small and had a small distribution area. Diggers from all around the country dig up obscure local mustards that were only available in that area. A lot of times, information about them is almost impossible to find. Also, most of them had paper labels which are usually worn off by the time they're found. However, many East coast embossed ones end up on the West coast, especially in the Bay area, Sacramento, the Central Valley and in the Sierras (gold country)
Its a challenge to find them, but a fun one. I will post some examples to share with the forum.
Sc pontil collector

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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/11/2011 5:00:48 PM   
SC pontil collector

 

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Status: offline 		I have taken some pictures of the five molds of mustard jars that are in my collection. These are are most common ones. They can vary from these examples, but this will give you a good idea of what the shapes of the mustard barrels look like.
The first one is very common, but its shape is significante because its typically used for many different mustard barrels.
This one has an emblem that surrounds the name, this is more common than the Wichert without the emblem.
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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/11/2011 5:06:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		This next one is rated as rare. Its pontiled. One of my favorites
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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/11/2011 5:12:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is one is of the variants to LC's Geisson;s with the embossed eagle. Its is open pontiled. There are variants to this one as well.
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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/11/2011 5:19:13 PM   
SC pontil collector

 

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Status: offline 		This next one is a classic among mustard barrels, though not rare its unique and stylish design sets it apart from most mustards.
The embossing is either F & B or B &F , not sure. Its pontiled as well.
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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/11/2011 5:25:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		This last one is an fairly early mold that was used by several different companies. Most of these mustards are considered rare. Most are open pontiled.
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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/11/2011 5:36:59 PM   
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Probably posted 5 different times in the bottle forums, never had a reply in quite sometime.
Sorry SC. I post when I have something to add. I wasn't ignoring you by any means.
Still got nothing though.
I love those pics, much better than Zumwalt's book any day. Put up a few more.


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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/11/2011 8:28:23 PM   
SC pontil collector

 

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Status: offline 		Hey, these are hard to come by and if I were to get a reply, I seriously would be surprised.
Betty did her book back in the 80's, so I guess my pictures better be a little better with all the advances in equipment.
She has inspired a lot of collectors to even consider collecting food related bottles.
Thanks for the post and I hope fellow forum members enjoy the pictures.
sc pontil collector

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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/11/2011 9:17:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SC pontil collector

This is one is of the variants to LC's Geisson;s with the embossed eagle. Its is open pontiled. There are variants to this one as well.
sc pontil collector



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Hey sc pontil collector,

Thanks for showing some of your barrels. I'd really like it, if you'd show the eagle on the Giessen's, please.

I like that fancy B&F, as well.

You could have your own Mustard Festival...


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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/12/2011 12:23:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks very much sc pontil collector for posting your jars , I enjoyed viewing them . I had a few of them over the years , all of them had paper labels except for the Giessen's jar , the only reason I kept it was that it was embossed . Good luck with your quest in finding more of them .

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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/12/2011 8:58:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here is a picture of the Geisson's eagle. I have seen about 5 different eagle embossing on various barrels.
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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/12/2011 9:00:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here is a picture of an O/P of a Geisson;s eagle barrel.
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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/12/2011 9:07:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I wanted to mention a French manufacturer named Louis Freres because he had a large distribution of his products in the U.S. You'll probably see more of his barrels than other manufacturer. They come in many different shapes, sizes and embossing. Smooth base and O.P.
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RE: Embossed mustard barrels - 10/12/2011 9:09:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here is another example. This is a more common barrel of his. Its a smooth base.
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