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Flint River Help - 7/26/2010 4:22:35 PM    staticx32   Posts: 74 Joined: 7/19/2010 Status: offline Okay, so I have decided to go searching for bottles in the Flint River in Albany, GA and was wondering where would be a good spot to look?  The river is fairly large and stretches from the bottom of Georgia all the way up the state.  Anyways, Albany was founded in the 1800s and I thought it might be a good idea.  Geography of the region:  The river itself is quite large. I would say it is 150-200 feet wide, some places may be as deep as 75-80 feet.  For the most part, it has a rocky, muddy bottom.  They recently found old indian settlement beneth the water as well as a 1700s-1800s era shipping boat that sank.  Where would be good places to search?  Actually in the water?  The places I will be looking are not too deep but filled with a bunch of rocks (natural).  The river is beneath a cliff on one side that's probably 100-200 feet up.  The Sanborn Maps don't show the area but I figured there must be places around the area to hunt.  Any tips or tricks for hunting such a big river?  Thanks. Post #: 1

RE: Flint River Help - 7/26/2010 4:34:23 PM    staticx32   Posts: 74 Joined: 7/19/2010 Status: offline flint river Attachment (1) (in reply to staticx32) Post #: 2

RE: Flint River Help - 7/26/2010 4:34:58 PM    staticx32   Posts: 74 Joined: 7/19/2010 Status: offline some of the tributaries are shallower and have sandy banks. Attachment (1) (in reply to staticx32) Post #: 3

RE: Flint River Help - 7/26/2010 4:35:54 PM    staticx32   Posts: 74 Joined: 7/19/2010 Status: offline this is the part i will mainly be searching.  it is near some old railroad tracks that i believe are no longer in use.  rocks everywhere! Attachment (1) (in reply to staticx32) Post #: 4

RE: Flint River Help - 7/26/2010 4:47:47 PM    peejrey   Posts: 1547 Joined: 7/4/2010 From: Hickman TN Status: offline Looks like a good place to look. _____________________________ Tennessee stuff, and labeled Meds ___Preston J. Reyome____ (in reply to staticx32) Post #: 5

RE: Flint River Help - 7/26/2010 4:54:36 PM    staticx32   Posts: 74 Joined: 7/19/2010 Status: offline Any ideas on where to look?  I heard that back in the day they would just throw glass insulators into the water.  Would bottle searching near the tracks be a good idea too?  Thanks guys. (in reply to peejrey) Post #: 6

RE: Flint River Help - 7/26/2010 6:12:28 PM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9278 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: offline I'm no expert on rivers, but it seems people always threw bottles into water,...whether to watch them sink,...peg rocks at them,...etc, and common sense tells me the nearer old homes and civilization, (Those bridges) the more likelyhood of trash, bottles, etc,....I've found very old insulators along the water edge of nearby rivers and creeks where the road or tracks pass near....They don't seem as subject to strong currents either with their density and weight....around here, the closer August draws,...the lower and clearer the river becomes,....and could probably be walked for long stretches, (though I prefer the canoe).... Good luck,....It looks very nice along that stretch of your river... _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to staticx32) Post #: 7

RE: Flint River Help - 7/26/2010 6:51:22 PM    riverdiver   Posts: 621 Joined: 6/27/2009 From: The Lake Sunapee region of NH Status: offline The Bridge photo is awesome, I would get a mask/snorkel, fins, wetsuit and go scouting around the base of the bridge supports on the downstream side, an eddy always forms behind obstacles in a river and heavy items will be pulled into the eddy behind the obstruction and eventually get stuck in the sand. Some of my best and largest stoneware recoveries were in the eddy of RR track bridge supports. I agree with Joe that you should go when the river is drawn down in the fall to make way for spring runoff. If you are going to snorkel you still need a divers flag so boats wont hit you. May I suggest you get one and strap it to a large truck inner tube and strap a milk crate into the middle so you will have a place to put all of your finds and it also gives you something to hang on to if you get tired. The great thing about snorkel gear is you dont need a certification and you can get out and walk to other sites nearby and by floating your finds you will not break them as you might if they were in a mesh bag. I dive my rivers and look for Dams, Bridges, old Mill sites and early homes along the banks. The bottles will be wherever the people were and the more people the more trash they deposited into the river, it was a convenient way to get rid of your trash because it instantly disappeared from sight. _____________________________ Will dive anywhere, anytime for awesome old glass (except in ICE WATER)...Matt aka Lucky! (in reply to JOETHECROW) Post #: 8

RE: Flint River Help - 7/26/2010 9:57:57 PM    lepew62   Posts: 266 Joined: 9/5/2009 Status: offline I have recently started wading rivers/creeks. The Miami river here in ohio is the largest so far. I find larger rivers daunting, large areas and depths. I prefer the more narrow places downstream from populated areas. I look in places where the current washes into shallows, behind and around brush piles, behind any obstruction in the current. I found a local embossed soda sitting inside a old tire. I thought about doing the snorkle thing, places I hunt are too small for boats. My biggest worry would be getting sucked to death by a giant carp. I will post a few of the bottles I have found during my excursions. We had a rain this weekend but nothing serious, rivers are slightly riled. I am waiting for the fall when the algae blooms and such die off, water becomes as clear as tap water then. I am not sure if you experience the same in Georgia. The river looks like a good place to hunt, but do not overlook some of the smaller waterways. Good luck with your bottle hunting. Attachment (1) (in reply to riverdiver) Post #: 9

RE: Flint River Help - 7/27/2010 1:37:25 AM    staticx32   Posts: 74 Joined: 7/19/2010 Status: offline My problem is that the currents are somewhat fast at the moment and the water, for most if not all of the year, is smut brown.  This is due to the enormous amounts of clay we have everywhere.  Since the water is so dirty I am not even sure I'd be able to see anything under the water. unless it was 3 ft or less.  I might be in a predicament.  So basically a good place would be downstream up against old logs or big rocks?  That sounds good to me.  I might just wait until October or November when it gets really cold down here to make sure there aren't any alligators or water moccasins to deal with :) (in reply to lepew62) Post #: 10

RE: Flint River Help - 7/27/2010 7:27:54 AM    sandchip Posts: 1554 Joined: 9/1/2008 From: georgia Status: offline Watch out for the DNR, 'cause they WILL nail you in a heartbeat.  Also, just be careful.  That river just claimed the life of another diver this past weekend down that way. _____________________________ Jimbo (in reply to staticx32) Post #: 11

RE: Flint River Help - 7/27/2010 9:31:10 AM    staticx32   Posts: 74 Joined: 7/19/2010 Status: offline Yeah I read about that in the paper.  He died under suspicious circumstances though.  He was snorkeling in the river yet they could not find any snorkel gear but all of his belongings were still in the boat.  This will be an interesting autopsy to say the least.  Also, what will the DNR get you for? (in reply to sandchip) Post #: 12

RE: Flint River Help - 7/27/2010 2:10:11 PM    sandchip Posts: 1554 Joined: 9/1/2008 From: georgia Status: offline Removal of artifacts from navigable waterways.  And while they're at it, they'll probably get you for disturbance of fish habitat.  They don't play.  I'm just trying to save you a whole lotta grief.  Check out www.artifactsguide.com/forum/index.php and ask about the laws concerning diving for artifacts in Georgia rivers.  Bunch of good folks more knowledgeable than myself who'll be glad to help out.  And we even talk bottles there once in a while, too. < Message edited by sandchip -- 7/27/2010 2:11:59 PM > _____________________________ Jimbo (in reply to staticx32) Post #: 13

RE: Flint River Help - 7/27/2010 2:24:26 PM    peejrey   Posts: 1547 Joined: 7/4/2010 From: Hickman TN Status: offline That's a beautiful pic. _____________________________ Tennessee stuff, and labeled Meds ___Preston J. Reyome____ (in reply to sandchip) Post #: 14

RE: Flint River Help - 7/27/2010 2:43:06 PM    staticx32   Posts: 74 Joined: 7/19/2010 Status: offline They will seriously get you for that?  Artifacts from navigable rivers?  It's not an artifact, it is technically a piece of 50-100 year old litter that you are "trying to clean up."  Thats so wrong.  Grrrrrr! I know if you dig up arrowheads or whatever you have to turn them in to the state because thats against the law as well, but bottles...can they seriously go find something else better to do that jump on people taking bottles?  I guess I will have to be sneaky. (in reply to peejrey) Post #: 15

RE: Flint River Help - 7/27/2010 2:48:21 PM    staticx32   Posts: 74 Joined: 7/19/2010 Status: offline I went to the Georgia Council of Professional Archaeologists and they say: State property To surface collect, metal detect, or to legally dig on any state property, you must have a permit from the Georgia Department of Natural Resources. State property includes state parks, historic sites, wildlife management areas, and state forests, as well as state highway rights-of way, navigable river and stream bottoms, and the Atlantic coast all the way to the three mile limit. SO GUYS, LOOKS LIKE ALL I NEED IS A PERMIT :) (in reply to peejrey) Post #: 16

RE: Flint River Help - 7/27/2010 4:07:58 PM    sandchip Posts: 1554 Joined: 9/1/2008 From: georgia Status: offline Good luck, and I do mean that, because we went to Atlanta fighting that piece of legislation, and trying to get the state to at least implement an IFP (Isolated Finds Program) with no success so far.  It'll thrill a lot of folks if you are successful in securing a permit to look the Flint, so please keep us updated. _____________________________ Jimbo (in reply to staticx32) Post #: 17

RE: Flint River Help - 7/27/2010 8:15:00 PM    kastoo   Posts: 1821 Joined: 9/7/2004 From: Lagrange, GA Status: offline Carp shmarp, I'd be worried about the stray crocodile. (in reply to sandchip) Post #: 18

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