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GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia Pint ... - 8/21/2011 5:22:17 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Well I have all the Mckearin charted GII-72 flasks now.The latest edition turned out out be the GII-72a. There are differences between the three flasks to help the collector to identify them from each other. The GII-72 and the GII-72a are the exact same mold with the only difference being the GII-72a has an X on the Cornucopia side near the medial ribbing. The GII-72b is an entirely different mold, wider at all points, the medial rib is pointy not rounded as on the GII-72 and the GII_72a.The GII72a and The GII-72b each have an X next to the Cornucopia but it is located just above the tail closer to the center of the flask on the GII-72b not off to the side of the tail near the ribs as it is on the GII-72a.The X on the GII-72b is positioned differently as it is tilted not laid on as you and I would write a traditional X. From left to right the the eagle side of the flasks.First the olive amber colored GII-72,next the olive amber GII-72a and last the dark green with a little olive amber GII-72b.The GII-72 and 72a bottles are fairly light in weight.There are medial ribs encircling the sides of all three bottles and there are rough pontil marks on all of them.The GII-72 is listed as common by Mckearin in their charted flasks. The GII-72a is listed as scarce and the GII-72b is listed as rare. Mike (Earlyglass) do you have this series also? Tom Bottlehead9 could you post your bottle again please thanks. Attachment (1) < Message edited by Steve/sewell -- 8/21/2011 5:24:36 PM > _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen Post #: 1

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/21/2011 5:24:58 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 2. The Cornucopia side of the flasks. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 2

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/21/2011 5:25:51 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The GII-72 Eagle side. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 3

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/21/2011 5:26:35 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The GII-72a Eagle side. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 4

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/21/2011 5:27:15 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The GII-72b Eagle side. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 5

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/21/2011 5:28:14 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The GII-72 Cornucopia side. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 6

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/21/2011 5:28:41 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The GII-72a Cornucopia side. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 7

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/21/2011 5:29:14 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The GII-72b Cornucopia side. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 8

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/21/2011 5:30:18 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The pontil markon the GII-72 Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 9

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/21/2011 5:30:51 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The pontil markon the GII-72a. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 10

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/21/2011 5:32:18 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The pontil markon the GII-72b.You can see this is the only one that is dove tailed or keyed. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 11

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/21/2011 5:36:22 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The GII-72a on the left and the GII-72b on the right each have an X near the Cornucopia tail,but as you can see they are postioned and located in two very different spots on each bottle. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 12

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/21/2011 5:38:06 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Here are the Xs marked in light pink it is easy to see the difference now dont you think. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 13

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/21/2011 5:49:13 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline What would a post be without Reds input.The GII-72a my latest aqusition has a neat feature a large 2 inch long pinch of glass located acros the Eagles talons when viewed tradionally from the outside.It looks like a mold line or a tree branch maybe for the Eagle to be resting on. A closer look tells a different story however as you can see the flap of glass on the inside of the bottle when viewing it straight down the mouth. This was probably a pinch from the bottom of the mold as it is straight across left to right.This pinch instead of oozing out the bottom of the gather across the base seam oozed or protruded inwardly inside the mold. As the gather expanded I envision the pinch migrating northward in the mold and somehow it maintained its shape and settled onto the reverse of the Eagles Talons. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 14

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/21/2011 5:52:19 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The pinch as it appears looking inside and straight down the front wall of the Eagle. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 15

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/21/2011 5:53:49 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The same picture with the pinch high lighted in pink.I am going to post this bottle also in the Bottles section of the forum. Attachment (1) < Message edited by Steve/sewell -- 8/21/2011 5:55:43 PM > _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 16

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/22/2011 6:46:45 AM    epackage Posts: 9836 Joined: 5/3/2009 From: Jersey Status: online Always the most informative posts with even better pic's and detail....thanx Steve as always....Jim _____________________________ I WANT PATERSON NJ BOTTLES !! Being NICE for the SAKE of OTHERS !!! (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 17

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/22/2011 3:00:19 PM    nhpharm   Posts: 147 Joined: 4/24/2007 Status: online I was once told that those "pinches" were something done by the glassblower with a tool to strengthen a particularly thin area of the bottle. I have a small double eagle flask with the same pinch in a very thin part of the bottle and it is a perfectly straight line, which made me think that explanation might have some validity. (in reply to epackage) Post #: 18

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/22/2011 10:54:15 PM    earlyglass   Posts: 1067 Joined: 12/21/2004 Status: offline Steve, I haven't been around on the site lately, but I like this post illustrating the mold variations of this fairly common New England flask. I think you have clearly illustrated some of the differences. I have had many examples of these over the years, but found myself interested in some of rare color variations of these flasks. Don't forget the 74... it is a close cousin, and comes in some of the best colors. The 75 (Pantaloon) is all together different but the most impressive of the bunch in person... if you can find one! Mike  Attachment (1) (in reply to nhpharm) Post #: 19

RE: GII-72,GII-72a and the GII_72b Eagle / Cornucopia P... - 8/22/2011 10:55:00 PM    earlyglass   Posts: 1067 Joined: 12/21/2004 Status: offline The pantaloon! Attachment (1) (in reply to earlyglass) Post #: 20

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