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Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/11/2011 2:14:53 PM   
harpplayer

 

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Status: offline 		Came across two old bottles that have the name Harden Hand on them. Believe them to be old form of fire grenade. I think they were once filled with salt water. Any ideas?
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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/11/2011 2:52:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		The harden fire grenades were reproduced in modern times so be careful.

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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/11/2011 2:52:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		They were normally filled with carbon tetrachloride a very dangerous chemical to your health and the environment.  It was used against fires by depleating oxygen at the source at the flame.  It was very effective against electrical fires like halon was.

What color are they?

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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/11/2011 2:57:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Harden grenades were likely made before they started using Carbon Tet.
They probably contained salt water to prevent the contents from freezing.




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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/11/2011 3:04:21 PM   
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some content info

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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/11/2011 10:03:08 PM   
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Wow. The 10,000 post dilemma is miles in the rearview already.

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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/11/2011 10:05:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Steve,

Please do put up some photos so that we might have a look. Is it dated on the bottom?

I surfed onto an episode of Auction Hunters the other evening in which our intrepid storage locker warriors Alan & Ton excavated lockers in Chicago and came upon 2 blue Harden's. One of them, I think the one without the tattooed hair, guestimated value in the $200 dollar neighborhood after an 4 second eyeballing.


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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/11/2011 10:13:48 PM   
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guestimated value in the $200 dollar neighborhood after an 4 second eyeballing.

..then he ate them...

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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/12/2011 12:47:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: surfaceone

Hey Steve,

Please do put up some photos so that we might have a look. Is it dated on the bottom?

I surfed onto an episode of Auction Hunters the other evening in which our intrepid storage locker warriors Alan & Ton excavated lockers in Chicago and came upon 2 blue Harden's. One of them, I think the one without the tattooed hair, guestimated value in the $200 dollar neighborhood after an 4 second eyeballing.



I love reinactment shows that people think are real....

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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/12/2011 6:06:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		The original patent for the Harden Star was a weak solution of sulfuric acid that would mix with Bicarb of Soda. That was in that google book I linked to for the Hayward a couple weeks ago. Salt was added to a lot of them to prevent freezing.

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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/12/2011 7:48:50 AM   
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Salt was added


it improves the taste too...

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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/12/2011 10:56:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here's a carbon tet. Most look similar.


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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/12/2011 12:03:21 PM   
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Before they ate the tasty blue Harden's, they had also found a Carbon Tet, and demonstrated it's efficacy by hurling it at a small log fire in an old wash bucket. Worked as advertised, too...


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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/12/2011 12:29:10 PM   
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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/12/2011 12:42:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a carbon tet filled Red Comet grenade hanging in my kitchen.

I will use it if the fire extinguisher doesnt work

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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/12/2011 12:49:41 PM   
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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/12/2011 12:52:30 PM   
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The hanger looks nice. THey are harder to find than the grenades.

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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/12/2011 9:28:52 PM   
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Who are you? Are you male, female, vegetable, mineral, modern Major General or what?


Hey Eric,

Geeze, put me on the spot, why don'tcha. I'm an "international man of mystery," the grey beard digger edition. I'm a Dad of 3, two of whom are highly annoying. I like natural fibers, women of color, digging up old stuff, Coca-Cola Zero with lime, photography, art, history, nice waves... You know, all the regular stuff, but not necessarily in that order. I'm sure I forgot some important points, maybe I'll think of them later.

Why do you ask?


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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/12/2011 9:37:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Long ago, I was curious too, but I got used to the anonymity of the surfaceoneness.. it seems to suit him just fine. He's kinda like HAL..




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RE: Glass fire grenade bottles - 5/12/2011 9:44:40 PM   
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I like natural fibers, women of color, digging up old stuff, Coca-Cola Zero with lime, photography, art, history, nice waves...
Ahh, so long walks on the beach suit you. Join the club and no, I'm NOT asking you for a date. No offense.

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