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Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys Old C... - 3/28/2011 3:58:18 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline I just received my latest Log cabin bitters bottle.This on is in a rare color as it is mostly a golden Olive  yellow amber color, with light amber and a little orange amber mixed into the areas that are usually thicker on the bottle.This bottle is 90 percent of the time in various shades of darker amber.This bottle has one semi major area of damage which is an inch and a half inch long but very thin and hardly noticeable crack on the lower roof area.An in the making V shaped area very tiny on the lip and some hazing and clouding slightly on the inside.There are also some scratches but that is it. These bottles are rare in any color but are listed as extremely rare in colors other then amber including the color on this bottle.Carlyn and Ring list it as scarce in amber and very rare in the following colors,Yellow,Yellow Olive,Yellow Green, and Deep Olive Green.I have two of these Kellys Old Cabin Bitters now and I think I am going to attempt my first color run in my collection. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen Post #: 1

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/28/2011 3:59:04 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 2. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 2

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/28/2011 3:59:28 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 3. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 3

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/28/2011 3:59:57 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 4. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 4

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/28/2011 4:00:23 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 5. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 5

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/28/2011 4:00:40 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 6. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 6

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/28/2011 4:01:02 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 7. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 7

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/28/2011 4:01:30 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 8. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 8

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/28/2011 4:01:55 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 9. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 9

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/28/2011 4:02:29 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 10. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 10

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/28/2011 4:02:53 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 11. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 11

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/28/2011 4:03:52 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 12.This bottle is sweet in the sun.By far my best colored cabin bottle. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 12

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/28/2011 4:27:44 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 13. A side by side comparison of the yellow Kellys Old Cabin on the left and the plain orange amber Old cabin on the right.Although very similar there are quite a few diffrences between these two bottles.In fact there are more differences between these two bottles then there are between an original Whitney glass works made Booz bottle and the Clevenger brothers reproduction one.At one time it was thought that the two bottles were made in the same mold and the only difference was a slug plate change. I can assure you this is not the case at all.Placing the Kellys along side of this orange amber Old Cabin really shows off the rich color of this bottle.Here are two differences between the bottles in this picture.Notice the Kellys roof peak is flatter less sharp then the amber Old Cabin,also see how far down the Kellys neck begins in the roof line compared to the Old Cabin. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 13

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/28/2011 4:30:52 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 14. Looking down at the two bottles you can see that the Old Cabin on the right is about a 1/8 of an inch wider. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 14

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/28/2011 5:16:02 PM    kwalker Posts: 731 Joined: 5/14/2010 From: Woodstown, NJ Status: offline Very interesting bottles. Sure are pieces of eye candy for me Gotta love the color of both of them especially in the natural light. Awesome pieces of glass there; it doesn't matter who you are you can point out a cabin bitters even in the dark! _____________________________ Looking for all Sea Isle City, NJ bottles!! (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 15

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/28/2011 5:18:30 PM    TJSJHART Posts: 1332 Joined: 9/10/2007 From: Arizona Status: offline THIS MAY SEEM LIKE A STUPID STATEMENT (SOMETHING I DO EVERY NOW AND THEN,JUST WON'T ADMIT IT TO MY WIFE) BUT,,WOULDN'T IT JUST APPEAR TO BE DARKER COLOR AT THE CORNERS , BOTTOM  AND LIP AREA BECAUSE OF THE THICKER GLASS ? _____________________________ .N.R.A. LIFER (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 16

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/28/2011 5:48:28 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Not a stupid question at all,TJSJHART.The reason they are darker is there is more glass in the darker areas (thicker).The gaffer had a hard time getting enough glass into the upper corners on these bottles because of gravity alone.The slope of the roof made it very difficult to get glass to go into the very top at the two peaks on the ridge line of the roof. This is why the Booz bottle was altered and the roof corners were chamerfered as they were breaking easily in these two corners not long after their manufacture.All of the cabin bottles have this look to them they are always lighter in color around the perimeter. _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to TJSJHART) Post #: 17

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/28/2011 6:20:39 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Here are some of the differences between the two bottles.I do feel though the same mold maker  made both of these.Because the two bottles are strikingly similar.This probably forced John Garnhart to apply for and get a patent for the design of his bottle in 1870.In the Kenndys St.Louis City directory of 1860 the following information. Garnhart & Connor, (John H. Garnhart and Benson G. Connor), domestic liquors, 188 N. 2d Garnhart John H., (Garnhart & Connor), r. domestic liquors 100 Elm are listed at two locations. J H Garnhard (1854-1869) J H Garnhard (1854), John H Garnhart (1857-1866), J H Garnhard & Co. (1869) 185-188 N 2 nd (1854-1859), 108 N 2 nd (1866), 411-413 N 2 nd (1869) Garnhart & Kelly (1864-1874) Garnhart & Kelly (1864-1865), John H Garnhart (1867-1868), J H Garnhart & Co. (1870-1874) 164 N 2 nd (1864), 108 N 2 nd (1865), 411-413 N 2 nd (1867-1872), 19-21 S 2 nd (1874) Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 18

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/28/2011 11:23:08 PM    appliedlips Posts: 3507 Joined: 1/30/2005 Status: offline Nice bottles Steve, Ive always liked the Kelly's and lighter colors are hard to find. The dark olives, almost black show up but anything in lighter shades of true greens are very pricey. Good luck with your run. _____________________________ LOOKING FOR PONTILLED OR EARLY SQUAT SODAS FROM HIGHLAND,ILLNOIS.. (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 19

RE: Golden Olive, Light Amber,and orange amber Kellys O... - 3/30/2011 11:22:22 PM    grugirl   Posts: 204 Joined: 3/25/2011 Status: offline WOAH STEVE, you were right about your pictures. YOU GOT SOME BIG BOYS HERE ALRIGHT. Nice bitters... When you say a color run, do you mean all the colors available in that particular style of bottle? _____________________________ Looking for digging partners in WA state (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 20

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