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HELP! Research Project Question! - 4/4/2009 1:35:19 PM    Bongers   Posts: 48 Joined: 2/17/2009 Status: offline I'm working on a research project that deals with smashed European bottles in northern Chile. I'm going to perform micro probe ****ysis on the bottles, which will identify the chemical formula of each the bottles. I plan on using this information to find out the manufacturer and the date of manufacturer but I have a couple questions. Does the chemical composition or "recipe" of antique bottles differ? For example, is the chemical composition of a late nineteenth century Dutch bottle different from a late nineteenth century English bottle?  Do you know any books that talk about the chemical composition of bottles? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Post #: 1

RE: HELP! Research Project Question! - 7/24/2009 3:23:03 PM    RED Matthews Posts: 2268 Joined: 8/2/2008 Status: offline Hello Bongers,  I was just looking around in other Forum subjects and found your post of 04/04/09 and didn't even know it was there.  I guess no one else did either.  I have two books to recommend for you.  In the listing of #22 there is an address for the person that found my copy for me.  He list on eBay as xsellr8, and has done good book finding for me.  Besides that I think he is honest and helpful. They will be listed in my Books section of my homepage within a few months.  They will be shown as: # 20  "WONDERS OF GLASS AND BOTTLE MAKING (To 1871)" By A. Sauzey and #21  The World’s Most Famous Book on Glassmaking “THE ART OF GLASS”  By Antonio Neri Translated to English by Christopher Merrett  Edited by Michael Cable – For The Society of Glass Technology in 2004. Acquired from Destiny Publications – David & Sheri Dunaway, 13797 SE 1781 Lane, Hathorne, FL, 32640.  [In FL ’07 - 08]   RED Matthews < Message edited by RED Matthews -- 7/24/2009 3:26:54 PM > _____________________________ http://www.bottlemysteries.com/welcome/ (in reply to Bongers) Post #: 2

RE: HELP! Research Project Question! - 7/25/2009 7:43:34 PM    NYCFlasks Posts: 370 Joined: 9/11/2005 Status: offline You will find many variations in the basic glass formula, some will be minor, while other are major. The composition could well vary from batch to batch, if primitive measuring meathods were employed, such as "10 shovels of this one, 15 shovels of that one" and so on. Quality control was nothing, compared to today. In my years I have dug bottles, some are like new, while the one next to it is so etched and pitted by being in the ground, it can not even be cleaned....from the same hole. _____________________________ SAYVILLE BOTTLES WANTED !!!!!! (in reply to RED Matthews) Post #: 3

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RE: HELP! Research Project Question! - 9/17/2009 12:41:50 AM    ancientdigger69 Posts: 341 Joined: 7/31/2009 From: Central Illinois Status: offline its really going to depend on where it was made and what materials were used in the making of a bottle. the composition and color and quality of the glass will differ from place to place. new jersey made bottles have different characteristics than new england bottles. no two glass houses did things exactly the same with the same materials. (in reply to Deleted User) Post #: 5

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