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I know about EG Booz Bottles, really!! - 5/10/2011 5:19:04 PM    awilliams   Posts: 72 Joined: 10/31/2007 From: Mountain Home, AR Status: offline Ok, all, I have done my research for days now on this Old Cabin Whiskey bottle.  I have read and reread Steve's AMAZING post on EG Booz bottles and have read several other posts.  However, I can't seem to just feel 100% confortable with my conclusion.  Here is what I have come up with: 1)it's definitely a repro (Clevenger)-that I am sure of.  Everything from the beveled roof to the "S" to the "K" to the "C" and "S" not lining up. 2)it has an applied crude lip (swirl or tooled marks)-I am aware even though a tooled or applied lip most of the time means pre-1900 (like 1860 on, right?) 3)the base has a closed pontil? it also has an "8", I have not seen anything about any numbers being on the bottom of Clevenger's 4)it looks like it has glass stretching marks? there are several "lines" that are thoughout the bottle 5)it has some markings below the door, which I have not heard anyone talk about. Can anyone give me some more information about some of these details?  I have tried my best to take some pictures of my concerns. Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: I know about EG Booz Bottles, really!! - 5/10/2011 5:19:42 PM    awilliams   Posts: 72 Joined: 10/31/2007 From: Mountain Home, AR Status: offline Neck Attachment (1) (in reply to awilliams) Post #: 2

RE: I know about EG Booz Bottles, really!! - 5/10/2011 5:20:22 PM    awilliams   Posts: 72 Joined: 10/31/2007 From: Mountain Home, AR Status: offline More pics Attachment (1) (in reply to awilliams) Post #: 3

RE: I know about EG Booz Bottles, really!! - 5/10/2011 5:21:05 PM    awilliams   Posts: 72 Joined: 10/31/2007 From: Mountain Home, AR Status: offline More Attachment (1) (in reply to awilliams) Post #: 4

RE: I know about EG Booz Bottles, really!! - 5/10/2011 5:22:48 PM    awilliams   Posts: 72 Joined: 10/31/2007 From: Mountain Home, AR Status: offline More Attachment (1) (in reply to awilliams) Post #: 5

RE: I know about EG Booz Bottles, really!! - 5/10/2011 5:23:56 PM    awilliams   Posts: 72 Joined: 10/31/2007 From: Mountain Home, AR Status: offline More Attachment (1) (in reply to awilliams) Post #: 6

RE: I know about EG Booz Bottles, really!! - 5/10/2011 5:38:34 PM    RED Matthews Posts: 2394 Joined: 8/2/2008 Status: online quote: I know about EG Booz Bottles, really!! Hi  awilliams.  I am sure your bottle is probably a Clevenger repro.  I expect if Steve sees your post he will be replying to you.  I have a Clevenger with  a C B bellow the doors on the front.  I have a couple that aren't marked like yours is under the window.  All  I can say is that it was a bottle worth making for some producers.  I have two that were made by the Smith Glass Company - and they aren't well known for making them, but they were brought to me by a Coast Metals salesman in the 1950s.  I am not in favor of repros, but they float around anyway.  They are too nice to just break them up.  RED Matthews _____________________________ http://www.bottlemysteries.com/welcome/ (in reply to awilliams) Post #: 7

RE: I know about EG Booz Bottles, really!! - 5/10/2011 5:42:58 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11470 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline nice bottle. As far as I know there is no such thing as a closed pontil. Your bottle is not pontil scarred. It appears to be a tooled lip. I could probably guess what the C B stands for. I'm not a Booz collector so I will let others more knowlegable discuss it. < Message edited by GuntherHess -- 5/10/2011 5:43:25 PM > _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to awilliams) Post #: 8

RE: I know about EG Booz Bottles, really!! - 5/10/2011 6:34:42 PM    awilliams   Posts: 72 Joined: 10/31/2007 From: Mountain Home, AR Status: offline I don't know why I had "closed pontil" in my head!  It looks like a sand pontil or disk?  Gunther, what would it be if it isn't pontiled?  Just curious because I see no mold seams (I am not saying they aren't there, I just don't see them).  Also, I figured that CB stood for Clevenger Booz but I had not heard anyone mention this.  I am no expert on bottles but I have been collecting and researching them for a couple of years (it all started at an estate auction where I ended up with a box full of wheaton miniatures that I fell in love with!) I am trying to reduce my collection of repros and after researching this bottle on ebay and such, I am finding such a huge variety of sold prices!  One Clevenger went for over $250 while others went for $10.  I am just so confused!! Thanks to you both for the information! Amber (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 9

RE: I know about EG Booz Bottles, really!! - 5/10/2011 7:01:35 PM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1704 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline CB stands for Clevenger Bros.   _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly My Brothers car in action . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWDd0TBWItc Always looking to buy or trade for Drake's Plantation Bitters and Drake's go-withs . And Tennessee Bottles and Jugs (in reply to awilliams) Post #: 10

RE: I know about EG Booz Bottles, really!! - 5/10/2011 7:08:44 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4289 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Hi Amber,Nice looking bottle.Although I live but 8 miles from where the Clevenger works were located I never really collected their glass and only collect their glass as a refference to the originals they copied from.They wre very talented glass gaffers I only wish they had concentrated on their own versions of glass.I think had they, their glass would be even more valuable today.Forum members Jersyanna and heritageglass are much more the authority on the Clevenger made bottles then I. You bottle was made after 1948 as this is when the Clevenger Booz mold was sold to the Dell company.The rest of the bottle has all of the looks of the later Clevenger made beveled roof versions.Read this post and Tom (jerseyanna) explains it very well. http://www.antique-bottles.net/forum/m-319881/mpage-2/tm.htm  _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to awilliams) Post #: 11

RE: I know about EG Booz Bottles, really!! - 5/10/2011 8:26:30 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11470 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline quote: what would it be if it isn't pontiled? The pontil rod was a way of holding the bottle while the lip was finished. If they didnt use a pontil rod then they used a snap case or other tool to temporarily hold the hot bottle. Your bottle has mold lines, they are just very faint and hard to see. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to awilliams) Post #: 12

RE: I know about EG Booz Bottles, really!! - 5/10/2011 9:54:36 PM    awilliams   Posts: 72 Joined: 10/31/2007 From: Mountain Home, AR Status: offline Thanks all for the information!  I have really learned a lot about these bottles!  I guess mine isn't as great as I thought it was at first but it's still cool and it looks great with my four other cabin bottles (all repros but four different colors and look awesome on my mantle!)  I've bookmarked several forums in here and several websites so I can learn more.  This is such an addicting hobby! Thanks again! Amber (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 13

RE: I know about EG Booz Bottles, really!! - 8/14/2011 10:28:28 AM    Jerseyana   Posts: 15 Joined: 6/3/2007 Status: offline Good morning. The "closed 8" you refer to on the base of your Booz bottle is actually the initials CB seen from the side. I can say this as the former owner of this Clevenger Booz mold. How clear the initials are simply depends on how a specific bottle is blown. You can check it out in my Tippecanoe and E. G. Booz Too! book or CD, or my new book about Clevenger Brothers, Last Links to the Past 20th Century South Jersey Glass Volume 1. Both are available directly from me. Tom Haunton (in reply to awilliams) Post #: 14

RE: I know about EG Booz Bottles, really!! - 8/14/2011 10:33:35 AM    Jerseyana   Posts: 15 Joined: 6/3/2007 Status: offline Hello again. As to why such a spread of prices on Clevenger bottles, it's because there are so many varieties of them, at least twenty-nine different just by design. (Not counting colors or whimsies) Tom Haunton (in reply to awilliams) Post #: 15

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