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Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to O.C.D.? - 1/24/2012 2:40:58 PM   
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Serious question I want to know others thoughts on.  Anyone else often contemplate whether or not they really need to be obsessing over collecting bottles?  Not trying to be negative, but it is something I continue to ask myself now that I have accumulated a local collection that I am driven to keep adding to.  I'm one to keep a very clean and uncluttered household but have tons and tons of bottles.  Thoughts? 
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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/24/2012 2:47:02 PM   
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Good question Ken, I certainly believe that the compulsion to collect (and dig) can be related to OCD tendencies, though I doubt that every collector has OCD.

I am a mild hoarder, and hoarding is an OCD behavior, so personally speaking yes, collecting is linked to OCD.


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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/24/2012 2:49:56 PM   
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Same here, sort of.  We have tons of bottles, but don't bring every single one home.  Well, Joe has a lot!  I'm OCD about cleaning and chores, too.  I think bottles can become an obsession like anything else. At least digging is a healthy one to have (unless it interferes with other activities and the people in your life).


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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/24/2012 3:02:55 PM   
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Not sure about OCD. I was recently led to believe it goes along with the desire to dig for lost pirate treasure. When you find something it makes you want to search that much harder. It has become an obsession to me, but I know of others who have given up collecting bottles altogether. Maybe just an addiction?

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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/24/2012 3:13:28 PM   
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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/24/2012 3:14:51 PM   
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Thanks for the thoughts guys.  I think it is somewhat controlled too when you are willing and able to sell/give away certain pieces that you dig but don't necessarily need.  Very good point Laur.  A day of good digging can burn a ton of calories and promote muscle growth.  

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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/24/2012 4:46:14 PM   
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I wonder if there is anyone who regularly reads/participates in this forum that would not be considered at least a mild hoarder. I control it by selling most of what I find/buy and only keeping the stuff I really like, most of which is not bottle related but the same goes for bottles.

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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/24/2012 5:38:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KBbottles

Thanks for the thoughts guys.  I think it is somewhat controlled too when you are willing and able to sell/give away certain pieces that you dig but don't necessarily need.  Very good point Laur.  A day of good digging can burn a ton of calories and promote muscle growth.  


This seems, to me, normal bottle collecting behavior. We don't consider it so, because we all do it. Even if we want to sell a lot of our bottles, realistically, we know we won't be able to, even at a bottle show. Of course, we can't throw them out, they're worth money!

Stumpknocker... I love that post! I've had it bookmarked forever! ...Is it bad if a lot of it rings true?

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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/24/2012 6:12:43 PM   
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It's just a hobby for me.. I do have a psychological affliction, though, it's called "TOCD"

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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/24/2012 6:28:18 PM   
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I wonder if there is anyone who regularly reads/participates in this forum that would not be considered at least a mild hoarder.


Not me.  I can't stand clutter and stuff everywhere.  It makes me nervous. 


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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/24/2012 7:02:44 PM   
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quote:

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Not me.  I can't stand clutter and stuff everywhere.  It makes me nervous. 


Totally the opposite for me; when I am in an overly clean, sterile and sparse environment lacking the dynamism brought by clutter, I get nervous and uncomfortable and need to go outside, or retreat to my cave of possessions, lol. I justify my modus operandi with this pithy quote:

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If a cluttered desk signs a cluttered mind, of what, then, is an empty desk a sign?

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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/24/2012 7:14:36 PM   
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That's a great quote!!!

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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/24/2012 7:28:02 PM   
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Im a mild hoarder,I cant stand an overly neat space.Im always afraid to touch anything

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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/24/2012 9:04:15 PM   
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I keep a 6 shelf display at all times. when I dig a bottle that I like, I look on my shelves and say "what can I take off" then I replace it with the new cool find. So I dont have a ton of bottles all over the place,they are in the basement in buckets  I like digging/finding more then collecting.


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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/25/2012 1:42:39 PM   
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As a psychologist friend explained to me, many people have OC traits and I suspect it's pretty common among collectors of all types.  But we are still "normal" (whatever that means! )

The thing about OCD is that D for "Disorder" meaning that the OC tendencies are actually interfering with daily life.  Imagine a hoarder who stops brushing their teeth or washing dishes because they're using the sink to store stuff, or a person who halts walking because they can't take another step in any direction without stepping on a crack. 

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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/25/2012 2:31:40 PM   
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It's CDO people!  That way all the letters are in alphabetical order........Ron

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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/25/2012 4:33:06 PM   
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I got this email from my friends wife, whom I introduced bottle digging ....( hint hint ) don't forget to read the last paragraph..


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Treatment and Counseling
We now provide treatment and counseling for individuals (and their affected family members) afflicted with the obsessive / compulsive disorders related to the antique bottle acquisition addiction.
For many years we have seen the effects of these disorders wreak havoc on families and individuals, even though recognition of the illness within the mental health community has only recently been forthcoming. To date, psychiatric professionals have recognized the following specific disorders related to the disease:
1) AOD (acquisitional obsession disorder)
This extremely destructive disorder is often thought to be the root cause of most all related disorders. Similar to the effects of gambling or alcoholism, the victim is obsessed with the acquisition of a particular bottle or group of bottles and exhibits compulsive behaviors toward this end. Sufferers have been known to lie, cheat or steal, empty savings accounts and harass former friends or collectors in the pursuit of the object(s) of their obsession.

2) Manic-Depressive Auction Anxiety
Characterized by extreme emotional highs and lows, this disorder can be traced to the auction activities both on Ebay and at the major antique bottle auctions. Victims display wild exhilaration at the prospect of acquiring a desirable bottle, followed by anxiety and despair when outbid. After a short period of reconciliation, this process can repeat itself several times, until a given auction ends. In some cases, this period can be followed by post-auction depression.

3) PSC (post-sniping catatonia)
A specific malady following the final few moments of an Ebay auction, whereby the sufferer is exhilarated at the prospect of winning a rare and desirable bottle at below market value, only to have it "sniped" away in the last 20 seconds by a stealth bidder or "sniper". Victims have been known to stare blankly at their computer monitors in a catatonic trance for days following this activity.

4) Bottle Envy
Similar to pe???-envy, though not gender specific, this malady presents itself among collectors who feel they have acquired the best possible example of a specific bottle, only to learn that someone else has acquired an example in a rare color or unlisted mold variation in equal or better condition. Bottle envy can be the precursor to a more advanced stage of AOD.

5) Digger's Frenzy
A psychotic disorder similar to alcoholic "binging". Victims disappear for weekends at a time, converging at some secret location where a large hole is dug and then filled back in, in what appears to be a shared psychotic ritual. The afflicted return home with severe back pain--often unable to resume work on Monday. In some cases, victims are incarcerated for trespassing. In rare instances, antique bottles are derived from this activity, but bottle envy can ensue due to disagreements over "first pick".

6) DPA (delayed pick anxiety)
DPA is a group disorder which manifests after many successful episodes of Digger's Frenzy. Usually, a dominant (Alpha Male) digger in the group will lay claim to the storage of the artifacts, promising to distribute them fairly after archeological cataloging has been completed. But the distribution can be delayed for months or longer, as passive diggers become restless and worried. Panic ensues, followed by severe tension and even violent territorial challenges. Distribution can be skewed due to attrition.
Obviously, this is an incomplete list of the problems associated with the hobby, and the list grows daily. Fortunately, through a grant funded in part by the F.S.U. School of Psychiatric Medicine, we have at our disposal the nationally recognized expert in AOD Therapy and Treatment, Doctor Emil Schoefhausen, of the AOD clinic in Gainesville, Florida. Dr. Schoefhausen has been assigned to administer online therapy through the Bottle Den Chat Room on an appointment basis for the remainder of the year.

As with all psychiatric disorders, treatment can only be administered upon acceptance of and admission of the problem. The next critical step to recovery, is "total forfeiture" of all bottles and bottle related items. Says Dr. Schoefhausen, "(the) cathartic effect of complete forfeiture has been shown to be so successful in the treatment of AOD, that patients will only be accepted when this important first step has already been taken." In an effort to further this cause, and in conjunction with the Institute, the Bottle Den will be warehousing the former collections of the afflicted on a continual basis. You should carefully wrap each of the offending articles in bubble wrap and ship them to:
The Bottle Den
P.O. Box 60931
Tallahassee, FL 32301-0931

As with alcohol or tobacco addiction, we realize that in some cases the act of forfeiture may be difficult, and that is why we encourage the spouses or other affected family members to initiate this all important first step (if the victim is unable to). So often, it is the loved ones of the afflicted who suffer the tragic affects of AOD even more so than the afflicted.

We urge you to put an end to the misery now and begin the healing.

Mary Heathburgin of Peoria, Ill. writes to us, "As I carefully wrapped each of Rod's rare bitters bottles in bubble wrap, I could feel a great weight being lifted off my shoulders. Now that his collection is gone, we can spend quality time together. Thank You, Bottle Den !"
Says Kay Hunt of Norman, Arkansas. "I was so disgusted with Bob's bottle infatuation and uncontrolled spending that I was tempted to smash them all. But as I gently wrapped each of his rare Baltimore Flasks, I felt a cathartic and peaceful mood wash over me. I'm sure he'll come to understand the wisdom of my decision. God Bless You, Dr. Schoefhausen, and many thanks to the Bottle Den."
Again, our shipping address is:
The Bottle Den
P.O. Box 60931
Tallahassee, FL 32301-0931

Act now, before it's too late !


Obviously, the "article" above is an attempt at bottle collecting humor. The facts and names are purely fictitious, though you may find a bit of truth in them. I'm sure that site visitors will recognize and send us more descriptive "disorders" for future publication. And . . . If you still want to send me your rare antique bottles, call or email me for my real address--I will accept them. -Wil Martindale





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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/25/2012 6:10:16 PM   
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No OCD...My ADHD trumps OCD.. It makes it so I cant finnis....  Oh, something shiny!


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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/25/2012 6:18:30 PM   
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OCD is more about how you get caught up in too many rituals in your daily life to the point where you have trouble doing what you need to do. Finding buried treasure or discovering a rare item on ebay, in an antique store or at an estate sale keeps the interest going. It is all about the searching and seeking of that next particular item you want to add to your collection. Collecting bottles is an ongoing process. One isn't supposed to stop unless they're through and done with collecting.


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RE: Is bottle digging and serious collecting linked to ... - 1/25/2012 7:50:31 PM   
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ocd , any collector has it mild or severe . hoarding is when you can not get rid of things , yes there are high's on bottle collecting , however i don't think it is overly destructive , it is la great way to exercise , digging . you can keep your weight down, learn things , dig with people who have the same passion , several people spends thousands and more on fishing hunting sports etc , bottle diggers mainly spend money on gas / purchase of bottles and a few tools , much cheaper hobby / sport . just a different form then most people have .

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