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Is this a colonial Williamsburg repro - 7/25/2008 12:04:55 PM    geordie   Posts: 10 Joined: 7/23/2008 Status: offline Shaft and globe style European bottle with WM below a crown seal (William and Mary?) small kick up in base with solid broken pontil mark.I have already posted on UK bottle digging site and they came to the conclusion it was a Williamsburg repro, I have decided to post here as you folks may have already seen another one.  Attachment (1) < Message edited by geordie -- 7/25/2008 1:52:48 PM > Post #: 1

RE: Is this a colonial Williamsburg repro - 7/25/2008 12:18:39 PM    geordie   Posts: 10 Joined: 7/23/2008 Status: offline Sorry I am having trouble adding images.Edited should have images in post  < Message edited by geordie -- 7/25/2008 1:54:24 PM > (in reply to geordie) Post #: 2

RE: Is this a colonial Williamsburg repro - 7/25/2008 2:08:02 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5124 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online It seems like something they could of made, or the Jamestown Glasshouse. The Williamsburg stuff is often marked CW. It doesnt seem to be a piece they currently make. Its hard to really tell much from that photo. If its a repro it looks like it was made pretty well. Show a photo of the pontil mark if you can and a close up of the seal. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to geordie) Post #: 3

RE: Is this a colonial Williamsburg repro - 7/25/2008 2:13:03 PM    geordie   Posts: 10 Joined: 7/23/2008 Status: offline Picture of the seal Attachment (1) (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 4

RE: Is this a colonial Williamsburg repro - 7/25/2008 2:26:02 PM    geordie   Posts: 10 Joined: 7/23/2008 Status: offline Picture of the bottom Attachment (1) (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 5

RE: Is this a colonial Williamsburg repro - 7/25/2008 2:27:57 PM    geordie   Posts: 10 Joined: 7/23/2008 Status: offline Picture of the base Attachment (1) (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 6

RE: Is this a colonial Williamsburg repro - 7/25/2008 3:13:48 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5124 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online after seeing the bottom it appears to be a modern bottle but i cant say who made it at this point. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to geordie) Post #: 7

RE: Is this a colonial Williamsburg repro - 7/26/2008 5:45:01 AM    geordie   Posts: 10 Joined: 7/23/2008 Status: offline If it is a modern bottle it was made in the United States as that is where I got it from, there must be others out there as surely it must be too much trouble to produce a one off, the seal stamping device would be far more costly to produce than the bottles value. I will be suprized and a little puzzled if no one has seen another. Thanks for your help and advice, opinions.  (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 8

RE: Is this a colonial Williamsburg repro - 7/26/2008 5:55:12 AM    geordie   Posts: 10 Joined: 7/23/2008 Status: offline I am adding a link to the original post on the Bottle digging UK site.http://www.bottledigging.org.uk/Forum/Topic74148-5-1.aspx (in reply to geordie) Post #: 9

RE: Is this a colonial Williamsburg repro - 7/26/2008 9:12:38 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 5124 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online Seems like they require you to be a member to view that post. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to geordie) Post #: 10

RE: Is this a colonial Williamsburg repro - 7/26/2008 9:53:50 AM    geordie   Posts: 10 Joined: 7/23/2008 Status: offline Thats a pity I just thought it would make it a little more interesting. Gunter thanks for your time in taking an interest in my post, I am 99% resigned to the fact that it is a repro but I would still like to know its origins. The lady I purchased it from told me she bought it many years ago  in a upmarket antique shop in Pennsylvania for what was at the time quite a lot of money. (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 11

RE: Is this a colonial Williamsburg repro - 8/1/2008 12:24:11 AM    whiskeyman Posts: 2019 Joined: 4/17/2005 From: NE TENN-SW VA Status: offline GEORDIE...Welcome to the Forum.The color, clarity ,and quality look similar to the Wmsburg repRoes,ie...Jno. Greenhow... but I'm not familiar with this one...It is "modern" , but who made ? I dunno..... _____________________________ * Member: Bristol Historical Assoc...and, Friends of Steeles Creek Nature Center & Park President: Bristol Tenn-Va Bottle Club Author of: Spirits & Medicinal Bottles of Bristol,TN-VA. My WebSite: www.bristol-tenn-va-bottles.com (in reply to geordie) Post #: 12

RE: Is this a colonial Williamsburg repro - 8/4/2008 6:42:33 PM    geordie   Posts: 10 Joined: 7/23/2008 Status: offline Thanks for that  Whiskeyman, however I have only seen the Greenhow Williamsburg in picture and they dont come close to this one for the look of authenticity, they look the wrong shape and the colours are too modern.   http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/phildaflyer/.mids/greenhowteal1.JPG < Message edited by geordie -- 8/4/2008 6:45:58 PM > (in reply to whiskeyman) Post #: 13

RE: Is this a colonial Williamsburg repro - 8/4/2008 8:21:06 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5124 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online The colors are a little better on the Jamestown glasshouse repros... http://www.eparks.com/store/search.asp?keyword=Repro1Bottles Yours looks better though. I think the earlier Jamestown/Williamsburg items were nicer, not sure if they are importing them from china now or what. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to geordie) Post #: 14

RE: Is this a colonial Williamsburg repro - 8/5/2008 4:50:56 PM    geordie   Posts: 10 Joined: 7/23/2008 Status: offline The Williamsburg Greenhow which is linked into my last post was made by Royal Leerdam Crystal, also known as Royal Leerdam , is the designing and glass blowing  department of Dutch glassware producing factory, Glasfabriek Leerdam. The company was founded in 1765 as a manufacturer of bottles in the Dutch city of Leerdam. I am not sure whether that is their most recent that is currently sold at Colonial Williamsburg.  I believe Colonial Williamsburg was founded in 1928 so they could have been making repro bottles there for some time which I guess would make them collectables in thier own right. Thanks again, Geordie.  (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 15

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