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Is this a vintage bottle? - 8/24/2007 10:27:44 PM    ladyhobo   Posts: 2 Joined: 8/24/2007 Status: offline I found this clear glass bottle. It says it is a liquor bottle. It has a wheat design on the sides. No cap, but would have been a screw on cap. On bottom of bottle are these numbers. 4053 Liquor Bottle 42    T     5 Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: Is this a vintage bottle? - 8/25/2007 12:54:07 AM    capsoda Posts: 8082 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Hey Lula, Welcome to the forum. I love the moniker "ladyhobo". There were still a few around in the south when I was a kid. They would clean up around the fire house where my grandpa was chief. My grandma would let me and my little bro take the pay out to them when they finished. It was usually a big meal of some sort. The bottle is great but it is the first like that I have seen. Hang in there and someone with the proper knowledge will come along and help you out. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to ladyhobo) Post #: 2

RE: Is this a vintage bottle? - 8/25/2007 3:32:45 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 5444 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline I often see bottles on ebay advertised as 'vintage' and I always wonder about the use of that term. Vintage litterally means the year wine is made from grapes but it can also be applied to items made during periods that are considered exceptional for some reason. Its a term that doesnt get much use in bottle collecting. I'm trying to think what bottles I might consider 'vintage'. Maybe straight sided cokes made during the first quarter of the 20th century? I think its too abstract a term to be much use in bottle collecting. Bottles are more oftem described by thier intended use (sodas, inks, medicines, etc) and the way they were manufactured (machine made, hand blown, pontil, tooled lip, etc) < Message edited by GuntherHess -- 8/25/2007 3:42:29 AM > _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to ladyhobo) Post #: 3

RE: Is this a vintage bottle? - 8/25/2007 7:57:54 PM    tombstone   Posts: 124 Joined: 12/21/2005 From: wv Status: offline unofficial ebay definition: "vintage" means anything that was purchased more than 24 hours ago, is dirty and worn, or looks like it might be old if you don't know anything about history and squint really hard.  See also "rare". < Message edited by tombstone -- 8/25/2007 7:59:08 PM > (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 4

RE: Is this a vintage bottle? - 8/26/2007 12:36:24 PM    bottlenutboy Posts: 2137 Joined: 10/10/2006 From: Bordensprings, Ala. or Esom Hill, Ga. Status: offline ebay definition of "rare" RARE- anything hard to come by, or any common junk that you wish to attempt to make salable. _____________________________ bottles for sale on my website! go check it out! http://www.geocities.com/cleburneslim/index.html?1170417418125 also check out the same bottles on my freewebs site!: http://www.freewebs.com/bottlenutboy/forsale.htm Spencer (in reply to tombstone) Post #: 5

RE: Is this a vintage bottle? - 8/26/2007 1:54:52 PM    lobeycat Posts: 4012 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline Hi Ms. Hobo. Since no one seems to be addressing your bottle question, I thought I'd give it a crack-a-lack. If it's a screw top you can date it after 1930. From the style of the bottle and look of the glass I'd say late 30's early 40's. the embossed plant rhy? might indicate what type of liquor it held. Definetely a backbar bottle maybe part of a set, each one being embossed with a different kind of grain plant. Value? $10 mebbe a little higher. Good looking bottle with nice detail. Lobey. (in reply to bottlenutboy) Post #: 6

RE: Is this a vintage bottle? - 8/26/2007 4:19:01 PM    bottlenutboy Posts: 2137 Joined: 10/10/2006 From: Bordensprings, Ala. or Esom Hill, Ga. Status: offline yeah, sorry about that, were easily side tracked, i would say its a safe bet to assume the "42" is the date, 1942 is my guess date codes are pretty common on more modern bottles _____________________________ bottles for sale on my website! go check it out! http://www.geocities.com/cleburneslim/index.html?1170417418125 also check out the same bottles on my freewebs site!: http://www.freewebs.com/bottlenutboy/forsale.htm Spencer (in reply to lobeycat) Post #: 7

RE: Is this a vintage bottle? - 8/27/2007 12:03:07 PM    towhead Posts: 914 Joined: 12/31/2004 Status: offline Anything older than 25 years is considered to be vintage, though opinions vary on this definition. Many sellers of vintage clothing-for example- consider even more modern pieces to be 'vintage', provided that they are particularly representative of the era in which they were made.  Anything more than 100 years old is considered Antique. _____________________________ J (in reply to bottlenutboy) Post #: 8

RE: Is this a vintage bottle? - 8/27/2007 2:15:02 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5444 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline so...would a 99 year old coke bottle be considered vintage, antique, both , or neither? _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to towhead) Post #: 9

RE: Is this a vintage bottle? - 8/28/2007 8:38:07 AM    towhead Posts: 914 Joined: 12/31/2004 Status: offline Sure don't know.  Me myself would want to call something Antique if it were 80 years old....Vintage always reminds me of maybe 50's-60's....who writes those definitions in the Dictionary anyway?  _____________________________ J (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 10

RE: Is this a vintage bottle? - 8/28/2007 2:38:53 PM    cowseatmaize Posts: 2135 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Metro West, MA Status: offline quote: unofficial ebay definition: "vintage" means anything that was purchased more than 24 hours ago, is dirty and worn, or looks like it might be old if you don't know anything about history and squint really hard. See also "rare". Haaaa...choke, spit$#&8^&. Excuse me, I was taking a sip when I read that and choked. 42 could very wll be the date but don't forget Federal Law.... forbade selling it so it would have to be foreign to the US. _____________________________ My 10¢ worth (inflation) Eric If you love what your doing it might be illegal, so watch your back. (in reply to towhead) Post #: 11

RE: Is this a vintage bottle? - 9/17/2007 8:59:40 PM    ladyhobo   Posts: 2 Joined: 8/24/2007 Status: offline Thanks to all who have replied to my question on the bottle. So far, no one seems to know this bottle. I did place it on Ebay, but no bidders.  Would like to sell but to costly to keep putting on Ebay. (in reply to cowseatmaize) Post #: 12

RE: Is this a vintage bottle? - 9/18/2007 6:28:39 AM    cowseatmaize Posts: 2135 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Metro West, MA Status: offline quote: don't forget Federal Law.... fibids sale or reuse statement would indicate a US liquor from 1935 and into the 70's. I was thinking more in the line of a barber bottle, shampoo or something because of the shape and lack of that statement. A foriegn liquor isn't out of the question though. _____________________________ My 10¢ worth (inflation) Eric If you love what your doing it might be illegal, so watch your back. (in reply to ladyhobo) Post #: 13

RE: Is this a vintage bottle? - 9/18/2007 8:42:54 PM    tncgal Posts: 255 Joined: 8/10/2005 From: east TN Status: offline "Liquor Bottle" was placed after "Federal law prohibits" by law passed in 1964, so this helps to date your bottle. Vintage can be used, but in order to properly be stated should reflects the years, as in Vintage 1960's.  You'll see numerous references to vintage on eBay, but that's usually by those who don't know or care, one way or t'other. Federal import laws define antique as required to be a minimum of 100 years old. Closing thoughts ~ I think the design looks like thistle.  :-) _____________________________ ~ tncgal ~ (in reply to cowseatmaize) Post #: 14

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