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KODAK BOTTLE, NO SEAM, STRANGE - 11/23/2006 6:21:15 PM    Ace of spades   Posts: 178 Joined: 11/1/2006 Status: offline I went back to the hole to get some bottles from yesterday, and forgot that I had dug this up. Has anybody seen or heard of this bottle. The embossing says JURY AND LESLIE The KODAK Store OWEN SOUND On the base is a "D" in a diamond. But this bottle has me stumped. does not have a seam, nothing on the neck or lip anywhere and is full of air bubbles and just seams very crude. I am confused, I have only been digging for about 2 months and the same with my bottle knowledge. But shouldn't there be a seam somewhere. From what I have learned the "D" is after 1900's more like 20's-30's or am I way off. Any help would be great. Cheers Ace of spades   Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: KODAK BOTTLE, NO SEAM, STRANGE - 11/23/2006 6:21:56 PM    Ace of spades   Posts: 178 Joined: 11/1/2006 Status: offline embossing Attachment (1) (in reply to Ace of spades) Post #: 2

RE: KODAK BOTTLE, NO SEAM, STRANGE - 11/23/2006 6:24:12 PM    Ace of spades   Posts: 178 Joined: 11/1/2006 Status: offline I cant find a seam anywhere on this bottle????????? Attachment (1) (in reply to Ace of spades) Post #: 3

RE: KODAK BOTTLE, NO SEAM, STRANGE - 11/23/2006 6:25:02 PM    Ace of spades   Posts: 178 Joined: 11/1/2006 Status: offline one more Attachment (1) (in reply to Ace of spades) Post #: 4

RE: KODAK BOTTLE, NO SEAM, STRANGE - 11/23/2006 7:12:33 PM    bottlenutboy Posts: 2137 Joined: 10/10/2006 From: Bordensprings, Ala. or Esom Hill, Ga. Status: offline as far as i know ANY bottle with embossing HAS to have seams because they had to be made in a mold                  maybe they are just weak? _____________________________ bottles for sale on my website! go check it out! http://www.geocities.com/cleburneslim/index.html?1170417418125 also check out the same bottles on my freewebs site!: http://www.freewebs.com/bottlenutboy/forsale.htm Spencer (in reply to Ace of spades) Post #: 5

RE: KODAK BOTTLE, NO SEAM, STRANGE - 11/23/2006 9:00:05 PM    Ace of spades   Posts: 178 Joined: 11/1/2006 Status: offline I think I might see a seam on the body, but nothing on the neck or lip. I dont understand this bottle Ace of spades (in reply to bottlenutboy) Post #: 6

RE: KODAK BOTTLE, NO SEAM, STRANGE - 11/23/2006 9:14:47 PM    bottlenutboy Posts: 2137 Joined: 10/10/2006 From: Bordensprings, Ala. or Esom Hill, Ga. Status: offline looks TOC to me to really date it i would have to see it in person im not very good at looking at pictures and telling maybe someone else will come along who knows about it _____________________________ bottles for sale on my website! go check it out! http://www.geocities.com/cleburneslim/index.html?1170417418125 also check out the same bottles on my freewebs site!: http://www.freewebs.com/bottlenutboy/forsale.htm Spencer (in reply to Ace of spades) Post #: 7

RE: KODAK BOTTLE, NO SEAM, STRANGE - 11/23/2006 9:18:51 PM    woody   Posts: 1615 Joined: 10/29/2002 From: Gilmanton, New Hampshire Status: offline Check the corners on the side of the bottle for seams. _____________________________ Woody (in reply to bottlenutboy) Post #: 8

RE: KODAK BOTTLE, NO SEAM, STRANGE - 11/23/2006 9:36:16 PM    capsoda Posts: 7510 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline It could have been refired a little to make the seams alittle less noticeable. The bought developing fluid in large bottles and jugs and put it into their own store bottles. Kodak stores were authorized dealers of Kodak supplies and cameras and were alowed to repackage certian things for smaller quanty buyers. The bottle dates from about 1885-5 to about 1890. After that they used the more common Kodak embossed chemical bottle. Looked like a peroxide bottle. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to woody) Post #: 9

RE: KODAK BOTTLE, NO SEAM, STRANGE - 11/28/2006 12:25:11 AM    David E Posts: 995 Joined: 5/24/2004 Status: offline U must be from Canada (owen Sound) Anyway I have a D in a diamond as Dominion Glass Canada Also (forgot what I ment when I wrote this down. But probally Nova Scotia(sp) Crown consolidated fruit N.S. Dave    (Oh date for Dominion glass since 1913) < Message edited by David E -- 11/28/2006 12:26:40 AM > (in reply to Ace of spades) Post #: 10

RE: KODAK BOTTLE, NO SEAM, STRANGE - 7/29/2008 11:41:03 PM    Wellington Womble   Posts: 6 Joined: 7/29/2008 Status: offline Nice one this - it was also one of my first Owen Sound druggists. The business succession for your drug store runs as follows: Vincent Chantler "Palace Pharmacy" 188?-1892 W H Taylor 1892 - 1913 Jury & Leslie 1913 - 1950s? Leslie-Dowkes 1950's to 1971 Don Nicol Pharmacy 1971 - 1980s Don Nicol then amalgamated to form the Big V drug store, now a Shopper's Drug Mart. I think the address was 932 2nd Ave East - it's beside the Bata Shoe Store (Don Browne shoes?) If you go the the Owen Sound public library local history archive and search for drug store history you will come across a paper I out together in the late 1970s on OS druggists. It'll have the proper dates and succession. Some of the drug stores distinguished themselves by locking up exclusive rights to certain product lines. Parker Pharmacy had Elizabeth Arden beauty products, McLeods had Baby Bunny nuts, Leslie Dowkes had Laura Secord candies, as well as Kodak cameras and accessories when they store first opened. So why does a bottle manufactured after 1913 have no mould seam over the lip? Simple. Dominion Glass continued hand operations (i.e. blown in a mould, applied lip) for small run orders up until the 1940s. The cost of making and outfitting moulds for an automatic bottle machine was too prohibitive if all you wanted were a few thousand bottles at a time (say 10 gross = 12x12x10 = 1440). So Dominion Glass carried on the old tradition of using a generic mould with an interchageable "slug plate" that bore the individual design for each druggist so that smaller product runs could be accomodated. Slug plates were cheaper than making full moulds for each druggist - easier to store as well. (in reply to Ace of spades) Post #: 11

RE: KODAK BOTTLE, NO SEAM, STRANGE - 7/30/2008 9:55:27 AM    logueb   Posts: 1380 Joined: 1/6/2007 Status: offline Nice find Ace.   Woody is correct about the seams being in the corners. Most bottles have the mold seam in the center of the sides as was usual for a rectangular bottle.  On the rectangular bottles with beveled corners the seams will usually be on the front corner on one side and the rear corner on the opposite side.  Sorta like a diagonal line through a rectangle.  On pic three and four , you can see that one of the lines that extends up from the beveled corner is a little longer than the other.  That should be the mold seam.  Fire polishing removes the seam up the neck.  I hope this helps.  I have seen this on some of the bottles in my collection. _____________________________ Buster Bottle Bug Bit with no cure in sight. (in reply to Wellington Womble) Post #: 12

RE: KODAK BOTTLE, NO SEAM, STRANGE - 7/31/2008 11:57:53 AM    towhead Posts: 859 Joined: 12/31/2004 Status: offline ....kitty corner seams or some call it catty corner.... (in reply to logueb) Post #: 13

RE: KODAK BOTTLE, NO SEAM, STRANGE - 7/31/2008 4:06:05 PM    logueb   Posts: 1380 Joined: 1/6/2007 Status: offline Julie, down here we say its "cattywhumpus".  But we say it more like "cattywhampus".  "Yep that bottle's got some cattywhampus mold seams." _____________________________ Buster Bottle Bug Bit with no cure in sight. (in reply to towhead) Post #: 14

RE: KODAK BOTTLE, NO SEAM, STRANGE - 8/1/2008 8:03:24 AM    towhead Posts: 859 Joined: 12/31/2004 Status: offline Cattywhumpus _____________________________ J (in reply to logueb) Post #: 15

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