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Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Piranha. - 6/17/2010 6:06:15 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline My new pet fish arrived today another end of day glass whimsey.This bottle was originally intended to be a pocket flask. The artist who created it did an excellent job considering he had limited time to attach the fins,lips footed stand ect and the applied string work which completely surrounds the entire body of the fish.Kidding about the piranha obviously but probably fashioned after a sunny or perch.The fish stands 7 inches in length and is an inch to an inch and a half wide. The fins were applied using the same pair of tongs because of the cross hatch marks left on the glass by the tool.The color of the glass is green with a light aqua mixed in.The applied threads or (strings) to the bottle is a signature of a German Palitine glass gaffer's work. There is also located on the fishes mouth the remnants of an iron pontil mark I really like this bottle quite a bit and have never seen another this old before.I always have my eyes open for these end of day products because 99 perecnt of the time they are a lot rarer then their glass bottle counterparts.One of the ways I use to determine whether or not a whimsey is old is by the amount of dirt and impurities in the glass.Some one who would mass produce these would have much cleaner glass to work with.Here are some pictures of the fish in close.The color tells me the Gloucester glass works in Clementon New Jersey might be a candidate along with the Glassboro New Jersey works of Heston and Carpenter. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen Post #: 1

RE: Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Pira... - 6/17/2010 6:06:56 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline number 2 Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 2

RE: Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Pira... - 6/17/2010 6:07:28 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Number 3 Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 3

RE: Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Pira... - 6/17/2010 6:07:55 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Number 4 Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 4

RE: Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Pira... - 6/17/2010 6:08:21 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Number 5 Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 5

RE: Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Pira... - 6/17/2010 6:08:56 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Number 6 Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 6

RE: Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Pira... - 6/17/2010 6:09:20 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Number 7,a large potstone is located in the threading not the body of the bottle. Attachment (1) < Message edited by Steve/sewell -- 6/17/2010 6:10:54 PM > _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 7

RE: Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Pira... - 6/17/2010 6:11:09 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Number 8,The footed base stand. Attachment (1) < Message edited by Steve/sewell -- 6/17/2010 6:12:10 PM > _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 8

RE: Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Pira... - 6/17/2010 6:12:18 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Number 9 The tail portion of the fish. Attachment (1) < Message edited by Steve/sewell -- 6/17/2010 6:13:17 PM > _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 9

RE: Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Pira... - 6/17/2010 6:13:22 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Number 10 Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 10

RE: Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Pira... - 6/17/2010 6:19:17 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline I guess maybe he could be a big mouth bass!! Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 11

RE: Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Pira... - 6/17/2010 9:35:54 PM    cracked bottle   Posts: 301 Joined: 10/4/2006 From: Ellicott City Maryland Status: offline quote: ORIGINAL: Steve/sewell I guess maybe he could be a big mouth bass!! Is that Jimmy Houston I see!!!  Very down to earth fisherman.  Cool looking whimsey buy the way. Marc _____________________________ Please visit my website at: http://mysite.verizon.net/mkrenrut/mybaltimorebottlecollection/index.html Wanted-Baltimore Pontiled Medicines- even if damaged (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 12

RE: Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Pira... - 6/17/2010 9:49:02 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline I dont even Fish and I like Jimmy,very passionate about the sport of fishing.I would love to go fishing with someone like him. _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to cracked bottle) Post #: 13

RE: Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Pira... - 6/17/2010 11:18:28 PM    RED Matthews Posts: 2268 Joined: 8/2/2008 Status: online Steve, That is a neat coverage and tribute to a mans creation.  I hope you are coming up here this summer - bring that fisherman with you and we can set on the dock and do it. And I really mean it.  I look forward to your visit and I am sure we will enjoy your family. Clarence RED Matthews    _____________________________ http://www.bottlemysteries.com/welcome/ (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 14

RE: Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Pira... - 6/17/2010 11:52:53 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Hi Red, Its been crazy at my house rehabing a Bathroom on the first floor,Built a new storage closet,Just had 0ver 400 feet of sidewalk replaced. I just installed 30 sprinkler heads for my lawn.We are getting ready for my daughters graduation party.Bridgette graduated with honors from Camden Catholic I am very proud of her.I am gathering info on the Neptune glassworks it was a real place.This fish bottle is awesome,I have never seen one before and it is very old.I could bring it up to your place this summer.I will email you in the coming days.Thanks again Red _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to RED Matthews) Post #: 15

RE: Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Pira... - 6/18/2010 7:42:06 AM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline I forgot to mention this earlier in the post.All the fins on the fish were added after the vessel was blown.The lips show no area of after attachment anomolies. When guilding and rigarees and lily pads were added to vases and bottles you can clearly see the lines of demarkation where they attach to the vessel.The mouth on this bottle has no such marks rather it looks as though the lips were pulled up from the vessel on each side of the pontil while the glass was still plyable.Maybe Red can offer his opoinon on this matter. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 16

RE: Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Pira... - 6/18/2010 8:01:49 AM    woodswalker   Posts: 1048 Joined: 4/13/2010 From: South Haven, Michigan Status: offline I think that it great!! Wonderful piece of artwork there!! The things they could do back then just amaze me   Amanda _____________________________ Always enjoy nature to the fullest....what more could we want...birds singing and fresh air....AND Lots of neat stuff to always be found...One mans junk may be someone elses treasure :) (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 17

RE: Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Pira... - 6/18/2010 8:53:35 AM    Wangan   Posts: 1136 Joined: 12/4/2009 From: Northern Maine Status: offline Once again,excellent bottle Steve! I love the pure artwork from the heart that these bottlemakers came up with.That potstone right in the string is really cool! Thanks for showing. _____________________________ http://youtu.be/e4ujS1er1r0 (in reply to woodswalker) Post #: 18

RE: Late 1700's to early 1800's South Jersey glass Pira... - 6/18/2010 9:21:08 AM    Poison_Us   Posts: 2801 Joined: 5/27/2009 From: Savannah, Ga. Status: offline That is a nice piece of work.  Nice find and photos. _____________________________ Poison Us Member: APBCA ( www.poisonbottleclub.org ) Visit Us @: www.poisonousaddiction.com Looking for digging partners in/near Savannah. Be a friend. Give the "GIFT" of Poison. (in reply to Wangan) Post #: 19

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