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Magic sickness cure - 8/20/2011 10:57:14 PM    tigue710 Posts: 4143 Joined: 7/11/2007 From: connecticut - nor cal Status: offline Got a sick bottle that you don't want to tumble? Try vegetable oil... I put a little in the bottle and swirl it around, let it drain out completely, then using a rag soaked with oil I rub it into the outside of the bottle... After letting the oil soak in real good I wipe off all the excess oil I can... Cause you don't want slippery bottles! a side note I usually use olive oil and believe it works a little better although that's most likely just in my head Warning, this may make your bottles a little slippery, and don't apply oil say standing in the garge over the concrete floor... The results are really good with most bottles... I even know a scrupulous bottle dealer who claimed to me he used to spray his bottles with Pam before a show! _____________________________ •={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•= Post #: 1

RE: Magic sickness cure - 8/20/2011 11:12:20 PM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9807 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: offline I used to do that back in the day... I hear you on the slippery Tigue,...had a few get away on me....Watched a cool med I had just dug bounce a foot or so off the rug. _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to tigue710) Post #: 2

RE: Magic sickness cure - 8/20/2011 11:45:42 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11470 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline I would not recommend vegetable oil, it will yellow and get sticky or rancid after a while. Mineral oil seems to work better. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to JOETHECROW) Post #: 3

RE: Magic sickness cure - 8/20/2011 11:49:57 PM    RICKJJ59W Posts: 11903 Joined: 3/8/2007 From: Lehigh Valley US of A Status: offline Olive oil works the best for me.It coats it a never goes dull. _____________________________ My web site. Lots of privy and dump dig pictures. Also dig story's I had published in Antique Bottle & Glass Collector magazine and Western & Eastern Treasure's www.19thcenturybottlediggers.com (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 4

RE: Magic sickness cure - 8/21/2011 12:46:43 AM    tigue710 Posts: 4143 Joined: 7/11/2007 From: connecticut - nor cal Status: offline Olive oil is the best for everything I say... The oil actually evaporates after a while Matt, I used to recoat the bottles every mow and then... I've never tried mineral spirits but I would imagine it would evaporate very quickly _____________________________ •={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•= (in reply to RICKJJ59W) Post #: 5

RE: Magic sickness cure - 8/21/2011 8:44:00 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 11470 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline not mineral spirits, mineral oil http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_oil it wont yellow or go rancid like food based oils. It lasts years on the bottles as far as I can tell (I have used it on several). _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to tigue710) Post #: 6

RE: Magic sickness cure - 8/21/2011 9:44:04 AM    madman Posts: 10369 Joined: 2/5/2005 Status: offline quote: ORIGINAL: GuntherHess not mineral spirits, mineral oil http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_oil it wont yellow or go rancid like food based oils. It lasts years on the bottles as far as I can tell (I have used it on several). lol! _____________________________ always looking for, Toledo Ohio, Knoxville Tn. milks pharms and sodas, (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 7

RE: Magic sickness cure - 8/26/2011 11:18:36 AM    tigue710 Posts: 4143 Joined: 7/11/2007 From: connecticut - nor cal Status: offline I see, misread that. I'll have to try it, the only problems I've had with olive or vegetable oil is eventual evaporation. Haven't had it go bad... I don't believe vegetable base oils decompose rancidly, although I wouldn't go around liking the bottles... _____________________________ •={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•= (in reply to madman) Post #: 8

RE: Magic sickness cure - 8/26/2011 11:50:44 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 11470 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline from wiki... Storing and keeping oil Whether refined or not, all oils are sensitive to heat, light, and exposure to oxygen. Rancid oil has an unpleasant aroma and acrid taste, and its nutrient value is greatly diminished.[citation needed] To delay the development of rancid oil, a blanket of an inert gas, usually nitrogen, is applied to the vapor space in the storage container immediately after production. This is referred to as tank blanketing. Vitamin E oil is a natural antioxidant that can also be added to cooking oils to prevent rancidification. All oils should be kept in a cool, dry place. Oils may thicken, they will soon return to liquid if they stand at room temperature. To prevent negative effects of heat and light, oils should be removed from cold storage just long enough for use. Refined oils high in monounsaturated fats keep up to a year (olive oil will keep up to a few years), while those high in polyunsaturated fats keep about six months. Extra-virgin and virgin olive oils keep at least 9 months after opening. Other monounsaturated oils keep well up to eight months, while unrefined polyunsaturated oils will keep only about half as long.[citation needed] In contrast, saturated oils, such as coconut oil and palm oil, have much longer shelf lives and can be safely stored at room temperature.[30] Their lack of polyunsaturated content causes them to be more stable.[31] When olive oil goes bad on bottles it turns yellow and sticky. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to tigue710) Post #: 9

RE: Magic sickness cure - 8/27/2011 1:21:54 AM    tigue710 Posts: 4143 Joined: 7/11/2007 From: connecticut - nor cal Status: offline Now I want to try some palm oil... I've never had olive go bad on me, it always evaporated first. I think the mineral oil would probably work the best though, so that's what I'm going to go with... Btw, I had asked you to hold onto a bottle for me, I was hoping to trade but just haven't dug anything you'd be interested in... I guess a few weeks turned into much longer on me pretty quick... Do you still have it? It was the constitution water... _____________________________ •={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•= (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 10

RE: Magic sickness cure - 8/27/2011 8:03:47 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 11470 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline quote: Do you still have it? ya its still on the shelf _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to tigue710) Post #: 11

RE: Magic sickness cure - 8/27/2011 8:24:20 AM    Erik T   Posts: 119 Joined: 7/4/2010 From: Toronto Status: offline I had a very sick bottle that I put behind my wood lathe and after a while from being hit by all the wood chips I guess, the sickness began to dissapear. Kind like a very very very crude tumbler. Im not sure If anyone has tried the very low viscosity windsheild repair resin? I would think that if one would be able to rub that in like oil and once it dries It would stay forever. however I havent tried this but if ya wanna experiment..... (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 12

RE: Magic sickness cure - 8/27/2011 9:32:09 AM    suzanne   Posts: 689 Joined: 3/29/2009 Status: offline Hey, what about K-Y Jelly?  Whoops, did I really say that?!  Oiling bottles is, well, yucky.   (in reply to tigue710) Post #: 13

RE: Magic sickness cure - 8/27/2011 1:45:32 PM    Picklejar   Posts: 288 Joined: 7/9/2011 From: Philadelphia, Pa. Status: offline I use silicone lube spray. No organics to break down and the sheen lasts a long time. It really helps with scuff and light scratches as well as sickness. Also no sticky residue to collect dust or dead flies. For the exterior of most bottles I use, BKF, 0000 steel wool, a toothbrush, hot rinse, dry, silicone spray and display. ---Joe (in reply to suzanne) Post #: 14

RE: Magic sickness cure - 8/27/2011 8:27:27 PM    MichaelFla   Posts: 175 Joined: 7/5/2011 From: Florida Status: offline I'm with Picklejar on this one. Liquid Wrench seems to work great for me. I have some sick bottles that I don't want to tumble, but a little spray on them, spread it with a tooth brush (to get into the case marks/scratches/etc) and they display beautifully! (in reply to Picklejar) Post #: 15

RE: Magic sickness cure - 8/28/2011 9:33:26 AM    splante Posts: 1213 Joined: 5/25/2010 From: RI Status: offline they disapear but will the sickness return? _____________________________ s plante Will buy,or trade for Rhode Island ACL bottles (in reply to MichaelFla) Post #: 16

RE: Magic sickness cure - 8/28/2011 2:17:58 PM    Picklejar   Posts: 288 Joined: 7/9/2011 From: Philadelphia, Pa. Status: offline I have not had any bottles get cloudy again after using this process. - joe (in reply to splante) Post #: 17

RE: Magic sickness cure - 8/28/2011 2:27:16 PM    epackage Posts: 9862 Joined: 5/3/2009 From: Jersey Status: offline quote: ORIGINAL: splante they disapear but will the sickness return? The sickness is always there, it's just hidden for the time being... _____________________________ I WANT PATERSON NJ BOTTLES !! Being NICE for the SAKE of OTHERS !!! (in reply to splante) Post #: 18

RE: Magic sickness cure - 9/1/2011 12:52:45 PM    tigue710 Posts: 4143 Joined: 7/11/2007 From: connecticut - nor cal Status: offline I just used whatever was on the counter and caused me to get in my girlfriends way while she's cooking dinner... I haven't had any negative effects with food based oils, although I do clean as much excess oil off as I can... I do have to redo them now and then... Based on what I'm hearing here I think I'm going to try a synthetic oil... The sickness is basically just hidden, but quite well in most cases. Matt I'll come up with a trade for ya, it's been to hot and dry for my liking lately... And I don't have time to hit up the high country... _____________________________ •={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•={•}=•= (in reply to tigue710) Post #: 19

RE: Magic sickness cure - 9/1/2011 1:04:38 PM    RIBottleguy Posts: 1001 Joined: 3/5/2008 From: South Kingstown, RI Status: offline I frown upon this method because it is not a true fix for sick bottles.  It is also deceptive if you're trying to sell bottles.  I've tried this method before and over time the bottles get sticky and then become dust magnets.  I've bought bottles that were treated this way and after washing them with soap and water, some of the sickness came back.  What also came back was cracks that had filled with oil.  What looked like bottles in great shape were in fact covered in bullseye cracks and flashes. (in reply to tigue710) Post #: 20

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