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Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassmanufac... - 7/18/2010 12:05:46 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline I have collected glass attributed to John Frederick Amelung now for the last three years.While 100 percent attribution is virtually impossible traits, colors and where the glass objects were found along with geneological ascension help narrow down the certainty.This post will not be completed today but I will show the glassworks locale from a google sattelite map image with text added showing where the works were located, the mansion John Frederick Amelung lived in, and the location of the works he purchased from Conrad Foltz, and George and Balsar Kramer. These were Maryland's greatest glassworks and produced some of the very best American made glass in our countrys beginings.Matt (Guntherhess) you must also live pretty close to these works .It looks as though a baseball diamond is located just to the west of the Glass house site.Are these grounds privatley owned or are they part of some park system.It would be great to revist thje site of the 1962 Corning/Smithsonian archaelogical dig and scour around for maybe some fragments from the buildings.Heavy rains as you know can brings things to sufaces long forgotten.I will post some glass which has real strong historical connections to the area of the original German settlements in the Urbana district. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen Post #: 1

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 12:34:16 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11468 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline That site is a bit further from my house, maybe about 10-12 miles SE of here. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 2

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 12:41:49 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Matt could you take a ride over there when you have some spare time and check it out.It looks like a road dirt in nature runs right along the area. Maybe you could park by the ball field and walk back to where I show the site.Here is a drawing showing the view from amelungs house to the glass works.It is deffinatley travelling down hill as described.The Monoacy river rose 10 feet above its banks and also did considerable damage to the glass works during their time of operation. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 3

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 3:52:41 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11468 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline I think Phil mentioned something about wanting to go scope the place out. I need to check my old frederick map collection, not sure they show that far south. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 4

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 6:58:59 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Matt I based the glass works site in proximity to a map I have scanned and on the description in the original deed of land of the site.I am very confident that where I show the factory buildings on the aerial picture is in deed where they are.Here is an original map showing the location of the mansion and two factory buildings still standing in the early 1800s. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 5

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 7:44:40 PM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9282 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: offline Pretty interesting thread already,...I love maps,...especially one showing ancient glass works locations. _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 6

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 8:20:59 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11468 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline That map seems fairly accurate. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to JOETHECROW) Post #: 7

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 8:33:47 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11468 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline Article from the 60s discussing the dig on the Amelung site... Attachment (1) _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 8

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 10:04:57 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline I have shown this bottle here before but Ill show it again.This bottle I aquired from an auction in Maryland not far from Frederick two years ago. The bottle is a case bottle,blown in the half post method.The engraving on the front and back is of a tulip which appears on a lot of early German glassware. The pontil has an orange substance in it which a lot of Amelungs bottles had.I have been told the soil is that color and the gaffers would dust the end of the punty rod in the red soil to help break the rod from the glass when ready.The bottle is ten inches tall 4 inches wide and 2 and a half inches thick. Attachment (1) < Message edited by Steve/sewell -- 7/18/2010 10:09:29 PM > _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 9

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 10:12:35 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The date inscribed on the front and back of the bottle reads 1792 which would put it in Amelungs range of operation. This bottle remained with the same family in Germantown Maryland for over 150 years. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 10

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 10:13:46 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The date in close,this was taken with an inferior camera two years ago. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 11

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 10:15:14 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The orange substance which looks like red dirt in the pontil area and in some of the bottle. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 12

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 10:16:16 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The last picture of the the top of the bottle in close. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 13

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 10:22:06 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Amelung produced some of the finest glassware this country ever made.A trait in Amelungs work on fine tableware I have noticed and I have not seen it elsewhere is a flat cylinder shaped foot with a hollow flat cone shaped support which rests on the foot and looks like an upside down bowl.Here it is on an early glass candle stick attributed to Amelung.This piece sold for 20,000 dollars at auction in 2005. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 14

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 10:26:51 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline I have a couple of early vases with the same foot and support system.I originaly thought both of them to be early South Jersey but have since changed my mind and I am now leaning towards Amelung as the manufacturer.Here is a bulbulous vase with plenty of dirt and potstones in it indicative of it was an end of day product. Attachment (1) < Message edited by Steve/sewell -- 7/18/2010 10:27:58 PM > _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 15

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 10:30:36 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The vase again the center piece in the picture.Notice the similarity in the foot and support. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 16

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 10:33:57 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Various pictures of Amelung glass in my collection. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 17

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 10:35:24 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Another group picture. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 18

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 10:36:43 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The purple flat onion flask. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 19

RE: Marylands third Glassworks The New Bremen Glassman... - 7/18/2010 10:37:44 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The purple flask again in close. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 20

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