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Military buttons and more... killer marble! - 12/9/2007 10:46:32 PM    tigue710 Posts: 1973 Joined: 7/11/2007 From: connecticut Status: offline here are some things I've found recently.  Two buttons, one says Massachusetts and is gold plated.  A GIANT marble, a bone or ivory umbrella handle?  not sure there, a small opium or snuff bottle, and a trade token that says Burke Bros. on it.  Any info or insight would be most appreciated, especially about the buttons... I just noticed that figure with in the shield or crest appears to be an Indian in full dress with bow and arrows in hand.  Neat! < Message edited by tigue710 -- 12/10/2007 12:02:20 PM > _____________________________ aint no bottles in there.... Post #: 1

RE: Military buttons and more... killer marble! - 12/10/2007 8:32:17 AM    idigjars Posts: 1363 Joined: 12/24/2004 From: Michigan Status: offline Hi Matt!  Email me or post the info on the back of the buttons.  I have some maker info at home and when I get home I can try and locate some info for you about age.  Take care                Paul (in reply to tigue710) Post #: 2

RE: Military buttons and more... killer marble! - 12/10/2007 8:32:55 AM    idigjars Posts: 1363 Joined: 12/24/2004 From: Michigan Status: offline Oh yeah, cool finds by the way!   (in reply to idigjars) Post #: 3

RE: Military buttons and more... killer marble! - 12/10/2007 8:46:21 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 5444 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online according to "American Military Button Makers and Dealers; Their Backmarks & Dates" by McGuinn and Bazelon, your Waterbury backmark was used from 1870 to 1900. Too bad it wasnt a little bit older. The GAR is a Civil War vetrans buttons so it is definately post war. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to idigjars) Post #: 4

RE: Military buttons and more... killer marble! - 12/10/2007 9:50:40 AM    tigue710 Posts: 1973 Joined: 7/11/2007 From: connecticut Status: offline Thanks guys, the back posted is the GAR button, the Mass. button is slightly different.  It says, "SCOVIL MF'G CO. - WATERBURY".  Does that make a difference or is it all the Waterbury marks?  Thanks again for your help guys, very much appreciated. _____________________________ aint no bottles in there.... (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 5

RE: Military buttons and more... killer marble! - 12/10/2007 10:32:59 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 5444 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online There are many very similar Scovill backmarks, I'd need to see a photo of it to try to date it. A state button with a Civil War era backmark is worth considerable more than a later one. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to tigue710) Post #: 6

RE: Military buttons and more... killer marble! - 12/10/2007 10:49:38 AM    cc6pack   Posts: 565 Joined: 7/12/2003 From: Mableton, Ga. Status: offline Matt Alberts button book has the button listed a one piece Massachusetts on ribbon, on a lined field, Rich Quality/London ; also other quality marks. 23mm. Not a bad looking button for a dug one, Albert dates it post Revolution, I'd guess $25-50 range. (in reply to tigue710) Post #: 7

RE: Military buttons and more... killer marble! - 12/10/2007 12:02:50 PM    tigue710 Posts: 1973 Joined: 7/11/2007 From: connecticut Status: offline Thanks guys, here are some more pic's, it is a two piece button, apperas to be brass or copper front, gold plated, and a tin or copper back.... I just noticed that figure with in the shield or crest appears to be an Indian in full dress with bow and arrows in hand.  Neat! _____________________________ aint no bottles in there.... (in reply to cc6pack) Post #: 8

RE: Military buttons and more... killer marble! - 12/10/2007 12:33:30 PM    woody   Posts: 1805 Joined: 10/29/2002 From: Gilmanton, New Hampshire Status: offline Your button has the same emblem as the Massachusetts state flag. http://www.50states.com/flag/maflag.htm _____________________________ Woody (in reply to tigue710) Post #: 9

RE: Military buttons and more... killer marble! - 12/10/2007 1:37:12 PM    cc6pack   Posts: 565 Joined: 7/12/2003 From: Mableton, Ga. Status: offline Matt in this case the back marks don't make a lot of difference, In some buttons it makes all the difference in the world. It is a Massachusetts State Seal button.  With it being a 2 piece the value is in the $10.00 range sorry. The GAR a coupla bucks, the trade token maybe 5-10.  Nice digs (in reply to woody) Post #: 10

RE: Military buttons and more... killer marble! - 12/10/2007 1:44:57 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5444 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online That appears to be the backmark Scovill used from 1880 to 1920. Nice button but not very valuable. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to tigue710) Post #: 11

RE: Military buttons and more... killer marble! - 12/10/2007 4:22:08 PM    tigue710 Posts: 1973 Joined: 7/11/2007 From: connecticut Status: offline I like it all the same.  Thnaks everyone.  One more question though,  what does G.A.R. stand for?  I googled it and all I came up with was a fish! _____________________________ aint no bottles in there.... (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 12

RE: Military buttons and more... killer marble! - 12/10/2007 4:30:36 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5444 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online try grand army of the republic. man I hate gar, way too many bones in them things. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to tigue710) Post #: 13

RE: Military buttons and more... killer marble! - 12/10/2007 5:22:50 PM    tigue710 Posts: 1973 Joined: 7/11/2007 From: connecticut Status: offline Ahh, that makes sense, thanks Matt. _____________________________ aint no bottles in there.... (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 14

RE: Military buttons and more... killer marble! - 12/11/2007 4:38:26 PM    cobaltbot Posts: 1727 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: online Man I love this kind of stuff - cool finds! _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to tigue710) Post #: 15

RE: Military buttons and more... killer marble! - 12/11/2007 8:41:21 PM    JGUIS   Posts: 1712 Joined: 3/18/2006 From: New Lexington, OH Status: offline quote: ORIGINAL: GuntherHess try grand army of the republic. man I hate gar, way too many bones in them things. To hell with the bones, them things are far too ugly to eat.  What about them teeth? _____________________________ A pipe gives a wise man time to think, and gives a fool something to stick in his mouth. (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 16

RE: Military buttons and more... killer marble! - 12/11/2007 9:19:23 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5444 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online They make great bow targets ... http://www.mosportsmen.com/fishing/alligatorgar.htm Just never assume they are dead...or they may call you lefty... _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to JGUIS) Post #: 17

RE: Military buttons and more... killer marble! - 12/12/2007 9:56:48 PM    tigue710 Posts: 1973 Joined: 7/11/2007 From: connecticut Status: offline Man that is one nasty looking fish...  I'll think twice before swimming in the Ozarks again! _____________________________ aint no bottles in there.... (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 18

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