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Millville Bottle Works......... - 3/30/2004 12:11:47 PM    woody   Posts: 1615 Joined: 10/29/2002 From: Gilmanton, New Hampshire Status: offline Here's a couple of bottles that my neighbor gave me that I know nothing about. They are embossed: Millville Bottle Works 1888 This Bottle Not To Be Sold. On the base is a W in a circle. Does anybody know anything about these??? Attachment (1) _____________________________ Woody Post #: 1

RE: Millville Bottle Works......... - 3/30/2004 12:12:24 PM    woody   Posts: 1615 Joined: 10/29/2002 From: Gilmanton, New Hampshire Status: offline Here's a picture of the stopper. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Woody (in reply to woody) Post #: 2

RE: Millville Bottle Works......... - 3/31/2004 4:33:30 AM    David E Dearden   Posts: 196 Joined: 7/16/2003 Status: offline Woody they don't look too old and all I can find on that trade mark is "Wheaton" since 1946. TCW TCW Co 1888 and WHEATON would be since 1920 I see there are years misssing but that's how Julian Toulouse (bottles & their makers) says, unless I copied it wrong _____________________________ David E Dearden (in reply to woody) Post #: 3

RE: Millville Bottle Works......... - 3/31/2004 4:59:38 AM    vtspring   Posts: 27 Joined: 3/31/2004 From: vermont Status: offline I wonder if these could be asociated with the millville fruit jar(whitalls patent june 18th 1861) see the red book of fruit jars #2179 to #2188. (in reply to woody) Post #: 4

RE: Millville Bottle Works......... - 3/31/2004 10:34:08 AM    Maine Digger   Posts: 823 Joined: 2/4/2004 From: Augusta, Maine Status: offline Hey Woody, I had the first impression that Dave had, especially with the 'W' on the base. The wire for the stoppers also looks 'recent'. How's the condition of the rubber on the stopper? Is it dried or cracked? Nice looking, but I agree with David, not pre-1900. _____________________________ Norm Miller (in reply to woody) Post #: 5

RE: Millville Bottle Works......... - 3/31/2004 7:05:00 PM    woody   Posts: 1615 Joined: 10/29/2002 From: Gilmanton, New Hampshire Status: offline The rubber is in good shape, Norm, and I do believe it is some sort of repro produced at the Wheaton Glass works in Millville, New Jersey. 1888 is the year the glass works came into existence, Millville Glass Works. Has anyone ever seen these, what I will call, reproduction bottle before???? I'm familiar with their mini Wheaton reproduction bottles, but I've never seen any like these before. _____________________________ Woody (in reply to woody) Post #: 6

RE: Millville Bottle Works......... - 4/17/2004 11:49:40 AM    Bluebelle   Posts: 181 Joined: 4/16/2004 Status: offline Gorgeous!!! I'd say definitely Wheaton, reproduction or special edition. Wheaton made some special bottles for their collectors clubs which weren't available to the general public, also made some special commemoratives for private companies celebrating their anniversaries etc. I've a lot of Wheatons, but the Wheaton collectors web site hasn't been available last time I checked, and on ebay, I haven't seen many Wheatons except the miniatures and occasionally one of the larger ones. (in reply to woody) Post #: 7

RE: Millville Bottle Works......... - 4/22/2004 9:45:45 PM    Botman   Posts: 3 Joined: 4/20/2004 Status: offline Hey Woody In the 1970s I worked at the Wheaton Glass Company in Millville, New Jersey. We made many different kinds of glassware including Avon bottles Presidential Bottles and historical Reproductions, but I don't recall having seen the production of your two finds during the time I worked there. Botman (in reply to woody) Post #: 8

RE: Millville Bottle Works......... - 7/9/2006 11:18:14 AM    kimmelissa   Posts: 2 Joined: 7/9/2006 Status: offline New to the bottle collecting here as well. My sis in law has the same bottle only brown with a white porcelain stopper. The rubber seems in good shape. the glass has lots of bubbles. Looks authentic. We took it to the antiques road show but they couldnt identify it to be authentic or where it originated. There is one for sale by gypsy on the auction forum. Was wondering what the value is myself. This is  a pic I borrowed for the auction forum to give you an idea of what it looks like. On the porcelain stopper it has GEM PHILA USA. Thanks for your help! Melissa (in reply to woody) Post #: 9

RE: Millville Bottle Works......... - 7/9/2006 9:41:07 PM    capsoda Posts: 7510 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline  The style stopper was patented by Martin Landenberger in 1901 and wasn't very popular. The only known example was amber. I'd say they were repoductions to celebrate Millville's anniversary but I could be wrong.  _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to kimmelissa) Post #: 10

RE: Millville Bottle Works......... - 5/23/2007 10:54:50 PM    mac   Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2007 Status: offline In 1945 my mother & dad was buying an oil painting from the artist personally it was a real old couple in their 80"s as a young kid I crawled under their home which was a dog trot with a back kitchen and under the floor connecting the house to the kitchen was a pile of old bottles . blue green brown and flint. This made a lasting impression on me and in 1981 as i passed this old home site I wondered if the bottles were still there. the home was gone completly nothing left but the rock stacked chimneys and it was during the winter so I could see pretty good the location of the house and walked to the bottle stach exactly as i remembered. I picked up a couple of hondred bottles of every sort but the millville bottle works were by far in the majority. I still have 40 /50 left and never in my life have tried to track down a bottle before. Today my little woman picked up one of these 1888 bottles and set in on our patio table and it looks in as good shape and condition as some new wine bottles that my business uses every day. So tonight I put that in and I came to your web site and the first thing I read is that these bottles must be fake or reproduction.  I really expected to hear about old bottles but you folks have never been around old timers and their glass , man they took the bails off the bottles before storing them, my mom & dad did the same with the old bail canning jars. I have let a lot of these old jars get away for 2 bucks apiece but finally just put them away so no one could see them anymore and pester me to sell them some. Man this was in the time that my dad had gas rations and food stamps for salmon and canned commercial food and you are going to try and make me believe these bottles are fake. Can any of you remember what the old sachrine tablet bottles looked like square ronded and brown with the sorriest chemical mix for artifical sugar.  Just because the bottles have a bail in good condition doesn't make them a fake. I surely feel no one came in 1946 and placed all of these old bottles for me to come back to in 1981 to find . I passed thi old home place quiet a few times and no one ever lived in the house after this old couple  passed . Fellows, during the 60 & 70's i lived in europe and enjoyied vintage port  which was over 100 years old so now you are going to tell me I should have saved the empty bottles as they were not fakes I just never thought of bottles in this manner before. I was given an empty wine bottle by an antique dealer who claimed the bottle pre dated any of the conventenial claret bottles blown in france, it was a round bottle with a copper stand to surround the bottle and act as the base it had a wind up music box in the base that worked probably still does to this day.He always said when he saw the bottle just remember that bottle is not for sale. I hope you people enjoyed hearing from a non collector about an old bottle find. (in reply to woody) Post #: 11

RE: Millville Bottle Works......... - 5/24/2007 12:18:21 AM    capsoda Posts: 7510 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Hey Mac, Welcome to the forum. Are your Millville bottles Amber or aqua? The two bottles in question are in colors that are know as fantasy colors and were not common in the 1800s and probably not until the late 1920s. No one is sugesting that all Millville bottles are reproductions but the two in question most likely are. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to mac) Post #: 12

RE: Millville Bottle Works......... - 5/24/2007 7:20:49 AM    woody   Posts: 1615 Joined: 10/29/2002 From: Gilmanton, New Hampshire Status: offline Yes, please post some pictures, if you can. _____________________________ Woody (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 13

RE: Millville Bottle Works......... - 5/25/2007 8:20:19 AM    logueb   Posts: 1380 Joined: 1/6/2007 Status: offline Woody, I have one of the dark green ones.  I believe that I picked it up at the Rome Bottle show in the 80's.  I was told that it was produced in the original mold. This thing is slick, the embossing is weak, there is no wear , and the color just doesn't feel right for the time period.  I'll try to get some pics to post. I also would like to see a pic of those bottles that came from under that house also. _____________________________ Buster Bottle Bug Bit with no cure in sight. (in reply to woody) Post #: 14

RE: Millville Bottle Works......... - 6/11/2007 10:30:40 AM    logueb   Posts: 1380 Joined: 1/6/2007 Status: offline Woody, Sorry that it took so long to locate the Millville.  It appears to be the same as yours. Attachment (1) < Message edited by logueb -- 6/11/2007 10:33:58 AM > _____________________________ Buster Bottle Bug Bit with no cure in sight. (in reply to logueb) Post #: 15

RE: Millville Bottle Works......... - 6/11/2007 10:31:52 AM    logueb   Posts: 1380 Joined: 1/6/2007 Status: offline Close up of the embossing.  Hard to get agood pic. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Buster Bottle Bug Bit with no cure in sight. (in reply to logueb) Post #: 16

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