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More than a few - 2/26/2005 3:58:13 AM    nic.au   Posts: 20 Joined: 1/9/2005 Status: offline More from W.A. Hit a bit of a purple patch:-) Irish note the Cobb with the blue top. Can take more pics if anyone want to see single items. Anyone any ideas on the stoneware with the square top and the big dark square bottle Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: More than a few - 2/26/2005 4:18:32 AM    nic.au   Posts: 20 Joined: 1/9/2005 Status: offline Closer look at the square one. note the 50c its a big bottle Attachment (1) (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 2

RE: More than a few - 2/26/2005 11:40:41 AM    Bottleman Posts: 863 Joined: 9/3/2004 From: Central Pennsylvania Status: online The big dark square bottle is called a “case gin” bottle. I really like the codd with blue top! Can we get a close-up picture of that? Thanks, Tom (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 3

RE: More than a few - 2/26/2005 7:45:27 PM    nic.au   Posts: 20 Joined: 1/9/2005 Status: offline Hi Bottleman The one with the blue top is a west aussie Crowder & Letchford. Reliance Patent 4 Made by Dan Rylands, Barnsly The other one. has Volcanic down the front & Ross Bro Makers . Erskineville around the base Any ideas on that one Attachment (1) (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 4

RE: More than a few - 2/27/2005 4:12:35 AM    Dirranbandi   Posts: 104 Joined: 4/25/2004 From: Ipswich, Queensland, Australia. Status: offline G'day Nic Great finds - the stoneware bottle is an ink, usually impressed Stephen's Aldergate Street London, with a Registration Diamond which dates them around 1886-1889. Are any of the other stone inks impressed? I like the spill-proof ink (to the front of the Stephen's) and the little white cone ink. The Volcanic marble is from Sydney (Erskineville is a suburb of Sydney) - perhaps a Sydney collector on the list can provide more details. What are the brand names on the other marble bottles, as well as the torpedo and stone ginger beers? Cheers, Dirranbandi < Message edited by Dirranbandi -- 2/27/2005 4:13:56 AM > (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 5

RE: More than a few - 2/27/2005 5:54:56 AM    nic.au   Posts: 20 Joined: 1/9/2005 Status: offline G'day Dirranbandi The spill proof one has The Pottery Fulham on it with what looks like PATENTED above. Nothing on the cone one. The brand names on the cobb's are Swan Premier Aerated, Donaldson & Collins, Perth Aerated, Crowder & Letchford and Cuthbert. With two or three different patents on some of the brands. Nothing on the torpedo. Nic Attachment (1) (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 6

RE: More than a few - 2/27/2005 6:03:57 AM    IRISH   Posts: 1238 Joined: 11/23/2002 From: cockatoo Australia Status: offline Hi Nic, Nice stuff, very nice , the blue top Codd's a ripper. What town name is on the Cuthbert codd ? the only codd I've seen with that name is from Dandenong so it's a bit lost if it made it's way over there. (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 7

RE: More than a few - 2/27/2005 7:03:16 AM    nic.au   Posts: 20 Joined: 1/9/2005 Status: offline Hi Irish. You got it. Its one from your side. Thats one from Vic & one from N.S.W. Must have been off the ships alongside the jetty. Nic (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 8

RE: More than a few - 2/27/2005 5:52:37 PM    Oldtimer Posts: 811 Joined: 5/13/2004 From: Effingham NH. Where else? Status: offline Ta' heck with them stonewares...I want them cobalt bottles.....what are they, condiments? Olive oils? I have a weakness for cobalts.... _____________________________ STOP THE CAR !! I think I see a cellarhole !!! (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 9

RE: More than a few - 2/27/2005 5:57:44 PM    grimdigger1   Posts: 87 Joined: 11/12/2004 Status: offline The stoneware bottle with the square top is a bulk ink bottle made by doulton of lambeth.. They usually have a registration diamond near the base and come in about 4 sizes The diamond is for 1870 something but they used these into the 1920s < Message edited by grimdigger1 -- 2/27/2005 5:59:27 PM > _____________________________ www.bottledigginguk.com/forum The home of the UK bottledigging/collecting forum check us out today !!! Now with digging video online !!! (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 10

RE: More than a few - 2/27/2005 8:38:07 PM    IRISH   Posts: 1238 Joined: 11/23/2002 From: cockatoo Australia Status: offline Oldtimer, they are caster oil bottles, common finds in tips all over Australia but nice to find due to the colour. I think they where a bit sadistic back in "the day" forcing a spoonfull of that stuff down kids gobs , the worst experiance I've had with it was when a full one I dug had the cork pop out and spill all over me, the smell lingers for ages . (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 11

RE: More than a few - 2/27/2005 11:57:34 PM    oldshoe4u   Posts: 211 Joined: 2/3/2005 From: Cental NY Status: offline What the heck were codd bottles? Are they only Aussie in origin or are they a stateside bottle too? What was in them and why are they shaped so oddly? Thanks in advance for edumicatin' the newbie BOB (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 12

RE: More than a few - 2/28/2005 1:06:32 AM    madman   Posts: 4959 Joined: 2/5/2005 Status: offline all i can say is that is a major jackpot, if i found all that stuff id lose it for sure , very nice mike (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 13

RE: More than a few - 2/28/2005 1:38:52 AM    Dirranbandi   Posts: 104 Joined: 4/25/2004 From: Ipswich, Queensland, Australia. Status: offline G'day oldshoe4u Codds were patented soft drink bottles that used marbles as stoppers - they were first patented in England by Hiram Codd in 1872. The grooves were used to retain the marble stopper and keep it out of the way when it was opened - the different shapes varied according to the patents/new designs that developed from the original Codd's Patent. Codds were used fairly widely across the world, particularly UK and the British Empire, e.g. Australia, New Zealand,South Africa, India More details on codds and other marble bottles can be found at: http://www.oldfizz.com/ http://www.mpotten.freeserve.co.uk/ http://www.codds-n-odds.co.uk/index.html Cheers, Dirranbandi (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 14

RE: More than a few - 2/28/2005 1:43:13 AM    IRISH   Posts: 1238 Joined: 11/23/2002 From: cockatoo Australia Status: offline Bob, Codd's bottles are glass marble stoppered aerated water bottles (soda or lemonade mostly), the original patent was by H. Codd in England in the 1870's. They work on the gas pushing the marble onto a rubber ring and to open them one pressed the marble in. Some do come from America but most are from England, South Africa and Australia, there are some good ones from mainland Europe and New Zealand too. They where still in widespread usage up till the 1920's (even the 50's in a few towns in Oz). They are mostly aqua or clear (some go purple) but come in blue, amber, green and black, also you can get lips and/or marbles in all the above colours. I have a bit of an obsession with them . You got in just before me Dirranbandi . < Message edited by IRISH -- 2/28/2005 1:44:18 AM > (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 15

RE: More than a few - 2/28/2005 5:44:40 AM    Tandy   Posts: 280 Joined: 6/19/2004 From: Netherby, South Australia Status: offline Hi Nic, A most impressive line up of bottles, you certainly did hit the jackpot. Some of the bottles I can identify for you, beginning on the extreme left. Slightly out of the picture, small jar may have contained stove black. Next to it, behind the three white GB's, there is a large stout. It may have the potter's name "Kennedy" on it, or some other potter. Quite common. The brown glazed wide mouth next to the stout is almost certainly a stove black; the large stoneware in front of the Case Gin is a bulk ink; (Japonaisse?) and the small one behind two castor oils is also an ink. I am fairly sure that the square topped, registered ink contained red ink. Next to it, and behind it is a Seltzer bottle (Hertzogthau Nassau in a circle or two?). Did you come across any South Aussie marble bottles? (Codd's) Once again, a fantastic haul. All the best, Tandy. _____________________________ Today is the day I will find those goodies just waiting to be found ..... Lots of luck digging! Tandy, Netherby, Adelaide. South Australia. June National http://www.angelfire.com/rock3/rickirving/AHBC.html (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 16

RE: More than a few - 2/28/2005 6:25:42 AM    nic.au   Posts: 20 Joined: 1/9/2005 Status: offline Hi Tandy Thanks for all that info. No S.A. Codd's as yet, still got way's to go. Got N.S.W. Vic, W.A, English and and a scottish bullet. that I know of. Nic (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 17

RE: More than a few - 2/28/2005 10:01:05 AM    oldshoe4u   Posts: 211 Joined: 2/3/2005 From: Cental NY Status: offline Great finds and keep the pics coming Nick! Thanks for the lesson on Codd's guys! I'm going to have to watch for one at the upcoming shows to check out how they worked, pretty neat idea the Codd's came up with, and even cooler bottles. BOB (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 18

RE: More than a few - 3/1/2005 6:18:12 AM    nic.au   Posts: 20 Joined: 1/9/2005 Status: offline Few more from the same area, but I think we've had the best of it. For now Attachment (1) (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 19

RE: More than a few - 3/2/2005 7:01:13 AM    nic.au   Posts: 20 Joined: 1/9/2005 Status: offline Just trying to sort out some of these bottles. I find 5 different Codds and 1 Bullet all Crowder & Letchford. I wonder how many year these spanded. Attachment (1) (in reply to nic.au) Post #: 20

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