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Muriatic Acid Bath Gone Bad - 2/20/2006 11:34:05 AM    Bottleman Posts: 851 Joined: 9/3/2004 From: Central Pennsylvania Status: offline I personally like to use oxalic acid for cleaning rust and dried medicine out of bottle but that stuff won’t take heavy lime deposits off. Because I live around a lot of limestone, lots of the bottles I dig have that on them. I went to Lows and picked up a jug of Muriatic acid for only $5. I didn’t realize it was so powerful and I soaked a few bottles in it inside a plastic pretzel container with a lid that didn’t seal. An hour later the whole room smelled like acid and when I lifted the cap I could see acid steam rising out of it. Without thinking I took it and dumped it down the shower. BIG mistake! It stared fizzing around the brass drain and the whole bathroom filled up with acid fumes. I luckily survived but would someone please tell me the right dilution that will be strong enough to take lime deposits off? Thanks, Tom Post #: 1

RE: Muriatic Acid Bath Gone Bad - 2/20/2006 11:41:14 AM    madpaddla Posts: 2660 Joined: 12/29/2005 From: The great state of New England Status: offline Tom: I have been looking for that same "RECIPE". Thanks for posting. Before I got to the forum I used LimeAway. That had good results on alot of stuff, except some cloudiness, and forgot to wear gloves first time. Hands were peeling like a snake. Once again good post I'll keep checking to find the right mixture of Muriatic Acid. Madpaddla (in reply to Bottleman) Post #: 2

RE: Muriatic Acid Bath Gone Bad - 2/20/2006 11:56:36 AM    capsoda Posts: 7703 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Hey Tom, Mix your muratic 1 part acid to 2 parts water. Use outside only and away from any metal or concrete. Keep covered with a tight lid when not in use. 5 gallon buckets are great for muratic. It won't get out the cloudyness on all glass, some just have to be tumbled. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to Bottleman) Post #: 3

RE: Muriatic Acid Bath Gone Bad - 2/20/2006 2:15:40 PM    Bottleman Posts: 851 Joined: 9/3/2004 From: Central Pennsylvania Status: offline Thank you so much for the information Warren! I think this will help me and Madpaddla out a lot! (in reply to Bottleman) Post #: 4

RE: Muriatic Acid Bath Gone Bad - 2/20/2006 5:40:55 PM    madpaddla Posts: 2660 Joined: 12/29/2005 From: The great state of New England Status: offline Warren: Thanks. Good post bottle. Madpaddla (in reply to Bottleman) Post #: 5

RE: Muriatic Acid Bath Gone Bad - 2/20/2006 10:41:36 PM    CALDIGR2   Posts: 465 Joined: 6/20/2005 Status: offline I have been using Muriatic with great success for many years. It is not a glass cleaner, however, but rather a rust and encrustation remover. I don't soak bottles in it, either, instead just dipping the glass in the acid and then rubbing the material off with rubber gloves. A water bath will quickly neutralise the acid. Also, NEVER use Muriatic, or any other acid for that matter, indoors. It is an outside only operation, being careful to not breathe the vapors, because doing so usually results in a bit of discomfort. LOL. (in reply to Bottleman) Post #: 6

RE: Muriatic Acid Bath Gone Bad - 12/4/2006 2:48:06 PM    mikequarry   Posts: 33 Joined: 10/11/2006 Status: offline how long do you leave the bottles in the solution?will it hurt them? (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 7

RE: Muriatic Acid Bath Gone Bad - 12/4/2006 6:34:59 PM    bne74honda   Posts: 151 Joined: 2/19/2004 From: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Status: offline Bottleman......WOW are you lucky.... Muriatic goes by another name - Hydrochloric. All the advise you've got so far is right on. NEVER inside. I've used it now for 3 years and I do soak in it as well as wash. Rubber gloves, safety glasses and mask for washing. NEVER add water to acid....water first.   I have soaked bottles for various amounts of time to find out what works and what doesn't. I figure if it doesn't soak off in 2 days then scrubbin or tumblin's the only way. BTW...only use acid in a container that seals so well that it can be held upside down without leaking. It will etch concrete, eat asphalt, permanently mar stainless steel (sinks) and burn yer hands quite nicely.   To dispose of an acid bath, add baking soda until the mixture no longer fizzes - this neutralizes the acid - then it can safely be poured down any drain or outside.   I always wash off rubber gloves and any tools that have been used in the bath with lots of cold clean water.   Rust and like stains can be removed using CLR or Goo Gone. Goo Gone takes off nearly everything that CLR cannot. I have even used reverse electrolysis to get tough rust off some porcelain and glass.   My 10 cents....   Brian _____________________________ I believe in compulsory cannibalism. If people were forced to eat what they killed, there would be no more wars - Abbie Hoffman (in reply to mikequarry) Post #: 8

RE: Muriatic Acid Bath Gone Bad - 12/4/2006 7:05:38 PM    Gunsmoke47 Posts: 1159 Joined: 12/29/2003 From: TEXAS Status: offline Hey Mike, I have forgotten about bottles I put in a 50/50 % solution of Muratic acid and water for a month and it won't hurt glass. It also won't cure sick glass (the irridescent sheen on bottles that have been in the ground a long time). Pottery, stoners,ceramic is another story. You must soak them diligently in baking soda and water and fresh water after the acid bath. Kelley (in reply to bne74honda) Post #: 9

RE: Muriatic Acid Bath Gone Bad - 12/4/2006 7:16:44 PM    mikequarry   Posts: 33 Joined: 10/11/2006 Status: offline Thank guys ,i got a few im going to try...... (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 10

RE: Muriatic Acid Bath Gone Bad - 12/4/2006 8:42:02 PM    acls   Posts: 300 Joined: 6/2/2005 Status: online Muriatic acid is bad news.  If inhaled it can cause pneumonia.  The fumes also can damge your eyes.  I left a about a quart outside uncovered and it caused a section of my patio table to rust.   That being said it is a good, strong cleaner.  Mason's use it to clean up small concrete spills.  If you are going to dilute it make sure you add the acid to the water.  Otherwise you may get have a small chemical explosion.     (in reply to Bottleman) Post #: 11

RE: Muriatic Acid Bath Gone Bad - 12/4/2006 9:02:00 PM    tazmainiendigger Posts: 973 Joined: 11/21/2003 From: State O Maine Status: offline Tom thats funny but not! I bet there aint no hair balls left in that drain!!!!  I use it full strength on some of the bottles I tumble to take out the oxide residue but always outdoors....  they also have a "new formula" muriatic out, that they added something too so it wont attack the nails,skin and eyes, it works good but it will still have that effervescence.....Taz (in reply to acls) Post #: 12

RE: Muriatic Acid Bath Gone Bad - 12/5/2006 8:54:26 PM    southern Maine diver Posts: 1436 Joined: 8/13/2005 From: South Berwick, Maine USA Status: offline Bottlman... Hey Tom,  I posted a 15 point list on how to use Muriatic acid bath "soup" back on 01-04-06 under the thread of Re: uh-oh, did I do something wrong? Do a search for "muriatic acid, soup, southern Maine diver" and you'll pull up several threads on proper use of, disposal and cautions while using the muriatic acid bath.. I've used it for years with great results... Just be careful and lets all use some common sense when soaking our bottles in Muriatic acid, soup or any caustic material for that matter... Wayne (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 13

RE: Muriatic Acid Bath Gone Bad - 12/8/2006 11:00:53 PM    Yooper14 Posts: 313 Joined: 4/25/2005 From: Ohio Status: offline You're cracking me up, Man!  Muratic Acid is wicked stuff.  I about killed myself a while back when I tended for a brick mason.  He told me never to breathe the stuff, so of course the first time I used it I had to just take a teeny little wiff to see what was so bad.  I about sizzled my brain right there - it felt like fishing hooks being pulled through my nose....NASTY stuff!  Mason use it to clean up mortar that splashes onto the brickwork, but even then you have to rinse it right away or it will eat away your brickwork!  I've thought of using it on bottles, but so far none of my have stains I haven't been able to neutralize some other way.  BTW - I laughed and laughed when someone a few posts ahead of this said "I bet your drain doesn't have any more hairballs!"  HA HA HA!!!  How true.  You might want to check and see if your drain still has a pipe, too.... _____________________________ "Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history that man can never learn anything from history." - Shaw Yooper (in reply to southern Maine diver) Post #: 14

RE: Muriatic Acid Bath Gone Bad - 1/28/2007 3:06:33 AM    HopelessMD   Posts: 17 Joined: 8/9/2006 From: H'Town, MD Status: offline Just remember that muriatic (hydrochloric) acid is as far as one should go. Acids such as sulfuric or hydroflouric have no place in bottle cleaning -- they won't remove glass sickness but they may kill you or burn you until you wish you were dead. If hydrochloric doesn't remove glass sickness, no other mineral acid will. Either clean the bottle traditionally or have it tumbled. A quick note. If inclined, look up perchloric acid, preferrably the wikipedia link. This is mentioned because perchloric acid (not really accessable to the general public) is designated a "superacid." A superacid is defined as an acid which is at leat one hundred times as acidic as sulfuric acid and reading about heated perchloric acid may help one understand the extradorinally corrosive effect of sulfuric acid. I really don't even know why sulfuric or hydroflouric acid are even mentioned on this board. (End of soapbox.) (in reply to Yooper14) Post #: 15

RE: Muriatic Acid Bath Gone Bad - 1/28/2007 10:49:08 AM    Bottleman Posts: 851 Joined: 9/3/2004 From: Central Pennsylvania Status: offline HopelessMD, the only reason I use the acid is to remove heavy rust and calcium stains from dug bottles. I understand that the acid will not clean the sickness but it does a nice job on dried medicine and food stains too. If you can find something else that works that fast and is that inexpensive I would use it. (in reply to HopelessMD) Post #: 16

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