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My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 11:31:19 AM

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I got my first open pontil yesterday from Paul...(its' so cool & Paul is a pretty awesome guy) We had a great time on our privy dig!!

My new/old little prized bottle
It says Shaker fluid on one side and Extract Valerium on the other....which I guess was like valium or some anxiety type reducer back then...
Musta stopped the SHAKES!!!!

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 11:32:27 AM

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 11:32:57 AM

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 11:35:24 AM

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Here's the bottom....sorry it's a bit blurry. I usually switch cameras when I take these pics...I take my old camera out to the sites and use the better one for the good bottle pics....But Chris had it with him

Thanks for the bottle Paul!!! I love it

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 11:36:28 AM

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Thought this was a neat shot...view from the top of the bottle looking at the pontil mark!!

Amanda~

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 11:37:40 AM

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The Valerian root is what Valium is made from.I buy the tea to help me sleep when I cant.Its a little bitter,but works good.

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 12:33:44 PM

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Hi Amanda,....Super nice pontiled med! That was very nice of Paul, He is a great person, are you going to tell us a little about your privy dig? Joe

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 12:45:32 PM

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Joe,check out "My first privy dig" and you will see a good write up.

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 2:04:05 PM

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Thanks for the comments!! I just love this bottle!!!
I had so much fun yesterday and learned so much...I'm even having the guys here at work make me a probe after I order my materials from the steel center....
And Joe as Tim said check out...My first privy dig....
Paul is a very nice fella and I had an awesome time...great weather and good company....and some cool bottles to take home as well!!
What more could ya ask for???

Amanda~

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 2:29:49 PM

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The Shakers were the religious cult that made the patent medicines.

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 2:49:52 PM

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Oh I see...I thought it was something to do with shaking...I know that some people with anxiety problems take valium I guess to calm the nerves...so I thought Shaker was referring to someones shakiness...
I Learn something new on this site about every 5 minutes!!

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 2:51:49 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: woodswalker

Musta stopped the SHAKES!!!!

I believe that alcohol is usually a good short term remedy for deleriums tremens... LOL!

Nice bottle

Jim G

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 2:58:46 PM

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They made the Shaker style furniture, right? The are not to be confused with the Quakers. The term shaker on the bottle has nothing to do with having the shakes, but rather, the makers of the product.

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 3:00:07 PM

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Gunth is the medicine expert and was correct as usual: This bottle contained Dr.Brown's Shaker Fluid Extract of English Valerian, which was a popular medicine compounded by Dr.Brown(who was a Shaker) in the 1830's. The Shakers gave the distributorship rights to Edward Brinley & Co. of Boston around 1840. This pontilled bottle dates from the 1845-1855 period. Info courtesy of digrdaveb@aol.com

Amanda, check out Gunther's antique medicine site. It's pretty cool and has a wealth of knowledge.

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 3:22:41 PM

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Thanks Laur...I saw Gunths post about it being made by the Shakers...not shaky people lol!! So much to learn and and knowledge to retain....That is a great site I've checked it out before...And very cool you placed a time frame on my bottle!!! I'm biting at the bit to get out of work and go home and clean my bottles...I have to many errands to run right after I leave to!!

Hmmmm to pay my bills or go home and clean my bottles???? Well I've got 38 minutes to decide lol!!

Thanks everyone!!

Amanda~

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 3:28:21 PM

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Shakers were a VERY odd group. They made a bunch of various patent medicines, furniture, and many other things. They were very industrious. There are numerous books written about them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakers

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 3:33:59 PM

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http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/S/S.htm

Check the Medicine Nexus under SHAKERS...

There is a labelled version of your bottle...
http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/S/shakerFluidlabel.jpg

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 3:53:07 PM

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So much to learn and and knowledge to retain..

I gave up on retaining a few year ago. Now I just keep asking the same questions over and over...

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Shakers were a VERY odd group

. They were celibate right? Hard to keep a mixed religious community going if there are no young ones coming along.

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 3:57:33 PM

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"The Shakers built 500 settlements that attracted some 20,000 converts over the next century. Strict believers in celibacy, Shakers maintained their numbers through conversion and adoption of orphans. Turnover was very high"

funny but not unexpected

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RE: My new gift from idigjars...its a open pontil!!! - 6/11/2010 5:40:50 PM

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Valerian's mild tranquilizing power has made valerian a popular treatment for anxiety; in Europe, it is often prescribed for that purpose. Unlike diazepam (Valium) and alprazolam (Xanax), the drugs often prescribed for anxiety in the United States, valerian has few side effects.

Some people confuse valerian and Valium, believing that their similar names imply that they are somehow related. They are not. Valium is a synthetic drug, a member of the benzodiazepine family, while valerian is derived from a plant.

There is a connection, however. The herb and the drug seem to affect the brain in a similar fashion, binding to the same receptors. The differences are that valerian appears to be nonaddictive, and its effects tend to be (much) milder than those of Valium.

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