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NEW SODA FIZZ - 8/29/2008 12:50:28 AM   
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Man i thought this was done and DEAD! LOL.
Thats ok Kathy, I made my point that he is no authority on 7ups, There is no documentation and way too many variations to say what is definitive or not.
The other day a man told me that his BIBLE for cokes was PETRETTIS' and it was never wrong. My conversation with him was on the Christmas 25, 1923 Hobble he had listed on ebay and he gave the dates that they were made. He said Petretti listed them as being made until 1937. and until i had a better authority on it he would stick to his book. Well, seems even the infamous PETRETTI is wrong too, I have a HUNTSVILLE, ALA 1923 DATED, 1939! I wrote and told him that I had one in hand i was now the authority and you can never believe what all books say, they were written by us humans and naturally we try to be correct. If Petretti needs to look at mine an update his book, he is more than welcome to. A member on here also said he digs the 38 and 39's all the time. So.....I never take one persons word about anything nor one book. It comes from my Investigation background i guess. I have tried to focus more on being polite and concise and to the point whenever i post from now on. I have enough enemies. BAM BAM.

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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 8/29/2008 8:30:46 AM   
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Man I got to think about getting me a few of them acl's! You boys (and girls) are passionate about your hobby I'll give you that. I remember the little ruckus that kicked up here concerning those red labels and followed it with interest. Didn't really get the jist of it totally but it was a nice little throwdown, and it was nice to see someone draw a line in the sand and take a stand about our lil hobby here. BamBam you just keep you name just like it is! If I changed mine every time I got an angry email, my screen name symbol would be flashing fast enough to send a few of you into a full blown grand mal seizure. I get more death threats than Obama campaigning in Mississippi on a hot moonless night                       GO OBAMA, nah wut I mean

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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 8/29/2008 1:18:12 PM   
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Ahhh, i was just saying that in jest. To make a point that labeling people as angry in a mag is just callous and very un PROFESSIONAL! I want to know if Kathy will print my epic/informative letter in the FIZZ about HISTORIANS/AUTHORS and ARCHAEOLOGISTS? No mud slinging just facts! She is asking for stuff in the mag.....So Kathy...can i submit my work to you for all of us to read?

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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 8/29/2008 1:28:19 PM   
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Wow you are angry Come'her, gives us a hug....


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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 8/29/2008 11:47:01 PM   
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Sometimes you have to take things in stride, put the chip back on your shoulder and be the bigger man. Sometimes it's not the fact that you are questioning that bothers people as much as how you are questioning them. You want to be treated professionaly then you have to give the same respect in return.

I have no personal aliegance to Bill Lockhart or anyone else affiliated with the Soda Fizz; however, I have seen the way that you post when dealing with others who don't share your opinions and they are to be honest very inflamitory in most cases. Treat others how you would like to be treated, and you won't be called an angry collector.

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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 8/30/2008 2:10:14 PM   
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quote:

Treat others how you would like to be treated, and you won't be called an angry collector.

Amen! See I'm nice to everyone, and I'm pretty sure if I'd just stop buying my antiperspirant at the dollar store and refraned from using a nice sharp provolone as shoe inserts they'd be nice to me.
Remember....Obama Salama 08

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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 8/30/2008 2:51:54 PM   
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I have had some very vain professors before that did not even like for you to ask a question,as it took away from the professors time,so I know where you are coming from there. LOBEY: pundents seem to be saying OBAMA AIN'T GOT A CHANCE SINCE McCain has chosen WHATS HER NAME for VP! I think she would be a fair choice if it was tag team wrestleing.

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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 8/30/2008 3:04:27 PM   
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let me tell you something my friend, choosing a woman is his doom. The democratic pro-choice fems that Hillary has following her around are not going to vote for a NRA lifetime memeber, pro life, pot smoking, hunting bimbo from Alaska. We all know McCaine chose her to make him seem as progressive as the dems candidate. He figures her boobs will counter his blackness. Nothing more than a desperate ploy to make him seem like he was still a fresh stepping 90. Even the repubs know he wont live out his first term and no way in hell do they want a woman at the helm...

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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 8/30/2008 3:37:12 PM   
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POT SMOKING? HADN'T HEARD THAT ONE! No matter how transparent it all is [just picked because...last 8 years a disaster on and on] The powers that be,CORPORATIONS,will put into office who they want. The so called news people [HARDBALL & FRIENDS ] are paid by CORPERATIONS,and though some believe it is a liberal media,I can't see it The speech OBAMA gave was one of the best I have heard and yet it was overshowdowed by the Mc.vp pick. I have also seen some indications Obama may fold to the CORPERATIONS. I PRAY NOT,BUT I REALLY BELIVE BIG MONEY RUNS THIS COUNTRY ,NOT LOVE OF GOD ,COUTRY ,OR FAMILY!  LORD I HOPE I AM WRONG AND THE RESULTS PROVE IT!!! OH WELL!

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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 8/30/2008 4:46:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: glass man: I think she would be a fair choice if it was tag team wrestleing.


I'd wrestle her any day. I have a feeling Obama's going to win no matter what McCain does; however, just because something is popular doens't make it the best choice. Nothing against Obama, I even think that when all is said and done he may just turn out to be a good president; however, that McCain ad implied it best the same morons who fawn over the likes of Paris Hilton, and other celebrities, are the ones who are driving this Obama Mania thing that is going on right now. Granted there are some of his followers who actually have an idea about what's going on; however, quite a few more are just voting for him because he's black, talks pretty, and tells them what they want to hear.

I would be much more harder on him; however, I actually have some faith that he just might be the kick in the teeth this country needs. BTW I'm voting McCain and his new milf vp. Booyah! LOL!

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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 8/30/2008 10:06:48 PM   
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you're an idiot. just my opinion, nothing personal mind you

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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 8/31/2008 12:41:30 AM   
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Opinions are like rectums, everyone has one and no one wants to see anyone elses.

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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 8/31/2008 11:15:39 AM   
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I'm with Lobe, I just wish he'd tell us how he really feels !!

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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 9/1/2008 8:33:21 PM   
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and people call ME callous and insouciant in my posts'! LOL! Love ya guys! MMMMwahhhh!!!

MORBIOUS; I respect other folks opinions, i may just have a hard time puting my real thoughts down on paper. Know what i mean, to me it does not seem bad, but it is percieved by others as not playing well. It's not that i do not value others opinions, It is that I question others opinion. How else do you learn fact from fiction if one person contradicts another? In 2nd grade my teacher gigged me on not playing well with others, maybe it stayed with me? I have really tried hard in life, i have 16 years of education.....I graduated 8th grade twice!! LOL!

Bill responded back to me today and quoted my "angry" letter here it is;

Your opening e-mail to me began: "According to your article in the SODA FIZZ it states that during 1942 to 1945 the bottles lost there red pigmentation because they needed it for the war effort. I bought what i thought was one and you could tell where the red use to be!  think i got ripped off."  Later in the e-mail, you said, "i spent way too much for something i should not have."  I interpreted that as anger, but I now see what you sound like when you are angry.
    Again, I had no intention of insulting you, and I'm sorry you took it that way.  I will certainly refrain from communicating with you in the future. Bill.
 
I think i showed him what real anger was recently in an email! Now i do not have to eat crow, no where in that letter looks angry to me i just wanted answers and I was merely saying what was on my mind. Period.As for my other posts' People think i am short or curt with them, i must really beg the differ. Look back at where i have congratulated them on having a nice bottle etc... the only butting heads was between me and good old boy PAT. If i am misunderstood, or seem rough when typing,, I wil really try and pay close attention as to not offend any more collectors, I love the information and that article finally resolved the red pigmentation, except nobody produced a pure white 7up bottle in the war period. a RC was mentioned and then it was put in this issue of fizz to prove red was gone. Why use a royal crown bottle when 7up is in question. I just cannot understand that. And no i am not angry, the bottle is neat! And Kathy did a great job on researching material on how the bottles got the colors applied, I am quite sure it was very time consuming and tiresome and i sincerely thank you KATHY!   P.S. Kathy just had some type surgery so i pray for you to recover very well, Hope everyone else will do the same. God Bless, Terry.

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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 9/1/2008 8:54:56 PM   
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NOW THAT DID NOT SOUND ANGRY AT ALL! THE ARMY RANGERS LEAD THE WAY TO WHERE? My DAD was in the infantry in WW2 and was in a "DUCT" outfit and led the way to the beaches of SICILY! GO ARMY INFANTRY!{ THEY NEVER GET THE CREDIT THEY DESERVE} RIGHT ON! "OVER HILL OVER DALE WHEN THEY HIT THE DUSTY TRAIL AND THE CASSIONS GO ROLLING ALONG!!!"VOTE DENNIS KU[whats his name] !

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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 9/1/2008 9:04:21 PM   
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Now that was too funny glass man! In WWII, The 2nd Ranger Regiment was about to disembark on Omaha beach and the CO, Yelled out to them.......RANGERS LEAD THE WAY!!!! And it has become our motto ever since then. I am retired, 1977-1998. Seen my share from Panama to the Sand box! I do not miss it! Thank you very much for you comical input, I needed a good laugh!
Have a pleasant eve and hope you had a great Holiday, Terry.

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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 9/1/2008 9:08:24 PM   
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GOTTA TELL YOU MY DAD DID TALK ABOUT YOU GUYS IN A GOOD WAY, WITH ADMIRATION.

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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 9/2/2008 3:07:11 AM   
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I never said you couldn't contradict others, but to be smart about the way you contradict them, and you will find that people respond better and are more apt to listen more to your arguement. Anyone who gets angry at having their opinons or theorys questioned are far too egotistical to have an intellectual arguement with in the first place, and it is best to just ignore them. As for playing well with others, I don't put much stock in that; however, I do try to be diplomatic about my approach to any arguement.

Nothing sounds all that bad in our own minds because we are used to ourselves and how we are; however, we also have to have a certain amount of empathy for the other person on the conversation. There is a time for constructive discussion, and also a time to raise the roof tops with your blunt force opinions. The real trick is to gauge when the time is right for which approach, and audience.

In short, treat others with respect and tact, and they are more apt to actually listen to what you say. Scream at them and they are more likely to ignore and dismiss anything you have to say.

Thank you for your service to our country, I have an old friend of mine who used to be a Ranger as well, served in the first Gulf War, of course now he's a preacher. Funny how things work out.

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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 9/2/2008 2:36:19 PM   
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A PREACHER? FAR OUT! LEAD THE WAY ARMY RANGER PREACHER ,LEAD THE WAY!!!!!

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RE: NEW SODA FIZZ - 9/2/2008 6:26:15 PM   
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Yeah, he used to be the biggest partier I knew, lost contact for a while, met him again and son of a gun he's a preacher in West Virginia. The lord does work in mysterious ways if he can convert cats like John to the pulpit.

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