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Narcotic medicine label scammer on ebay - 8/12/2008 3:37:31 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11468 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline If you want to see the evil side of Fleabay take a look at this auction ... http://cgi.ebay.com/LAUDANUM-Antique-Cure-Medicine-Bottle-Opium-WOW-L-K_W0QQitemZ140255772442QQihZ004QQcategoryZ895QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem The item is bit up to $100. I thought this label looked suspicious so I looked at the sellers previous auctions they won. Found this one where you can see they bought the label and stuck it on a worthless bottle. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150264550848#ebayphotohosting Pretty sad I would say. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com Post #: 1

RE: Narcotic medicine label scammer on ebay - 8/12/2008 5:00:02 PM    beendiggin Posts: 2861 Joined: 6/30/2005 Status: offline You are smart to catch that!  How did you figure that out?  Did you just have a suspicion and then research the sellers previous purchases ? Should that be reported to E- bay as fraud?   Thanks for letting us know!  _____________________________ Paul (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 2

RE: Narcotic medicine label scammer on ebay - 8/12/2008 8:21:34 PM    Wilkie Posts: 1199 Joined: 5/2/2008 From: Suisun City, CA Status: offline That really ticks me off.  He has a 100% feedback score too.  I emailed him myself and I also reported him to eBay.  I hope they do something about it.  I want to email the bidders too but I don't want to risk my account with eBay because they tell you not to do that.  _____________________________ www.myspace.com/westernbottles I buy samples, Jamaica Gingers from anywhere and Northern California hutches, blob tops. (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 3

RE: Narcotic medicine label scammer on ebay - 8/12/2008 9:19:17 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11468 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline This has been reported, if you want to report it to ebay too thats fine. Please dont take other actions like contacting the seller or buyers, it just causes trouble and can mess up your own ebay access. I mostly posted this just to show people the kind of stuff you need to watch out for. quote: How did you figure that out? Someone asked me for my opinion on the bottle. I thought it looked odd. The label doesnt fit the bottle style and it shows no aging. The label looked like the later pharmacy labels people are always selling on ebay. It was easy to look at what he bid on and see it since he didnt even wait till his old auctions cleared to resell it. I consider any unembossed bottle with a paper label guilty until proven innocent I have seen similar scams on ebay. I collect medicine trade cards and sometimes buy victorian era albums. I saw one guy that was buying old original blank albums and then gluing his cheaper cards in them to sell the albums at a large profit. There are a number of deep packet buyers currently buying up any narcotic related bottles for museums and private collections. They dont seem to have a good knowledge of what is old and what is fake.  < Message edited by GuntherHess -- 8/12/2008 9:29:02 PM > _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to beendiggin) Post #: 4

RE: Narcotic medicine label scammer on ebay - 8/13/2008 8:20:40 PM    Wilkie Posts: 1199 Joined: 5/2/2008 From: Suisun City, CA Status: offline I see that ebay didn't do anything about it and the seller didn't update his page to reflect the deception.  I contacted "him" and also reported to eBay.  Have not heard from either.  I'm really ticked about it and wish there was more I could do.  _____________________________ www.myspace.com/westernbottles I buy samples, Jamaica Gingers from anywhere and Northern California hutches, blob tops. (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 5

RE: Narcotic medicine label scammer on ebay - 8/14/2008 12:53:29 AM    NorCalBottleHunter Posts: 353 Joined: 5/22/2008 From: Rio Vista,ca Status: offline what a filthy scumbag, thanks for the heads up guntherhess. that is just sad, man! _____________________________ http://www.myspace.com/norcalbottlehunter member: Golden Gate Historical Bottle Society collector of western bottles and unembossed flasks (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 6

RE: Narcotic medicine label scammer on ebay - 8/14/2008 8:50:17 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 11468 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline At the risk of incurring the wrath of ebay I contacted the buyer and gave them the bad news. I cant just sit by and let people get away with this type of stuff. I gave ebay the chance to make it right, they failed.  I hope the buyer doesnt take it the wrong way. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to NorCalBottleHunter) Post #: 7

RE: Narcotic medicine label scammer on ebay - 8/14/2008 4:20:32 PM    cc6pack   Posts: 1147 Joined: 7/12/2003 From: Mableton, Ga. Status: offline Gunther Just a thought when you contact someone do you just tell them it is bad and can back it up? And another thing do you invite them to the Forum to see what others are saying about the auction, just thinking that you have numbers behind you and that they don't have to hust take your word for it. (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 8

RE: Narcotic medicine label scammer on ebay - 8/14/2008 7:33:21 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11468 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline I would never just email someone and expect them to take my word for it. I hear crazy stuff all the time from ebay members. Statements of forgery should always be accompanied with proof since it is a serious matter. I would not refer them to this forum, I dont make any recommedations as to what they should do , that's thier business. I just present them the evidence and allow them to decide what they want to do. For all I know they may already know its a fake and think its worth what they bid. My goal is to just try to make the scammers' job just a little harder. Keep in mind any time someone in this hobby gets away with forgeries or other dirty dealings it diminishes the hobby for all of us. Just take a look at the Civil War relic market if you want to see what can happen. < Message edited by GuntherHess -- 8/14/2008 7:36:41 PM > _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to cc6pack) Post #: 9

RE: Narcotic medicine label scammer on ebay - 8/15/2008 11:36:51 PM    glass man Posts: 7554 Joined: 1/30/2008 From: GEORGIA Status: offline THANKS FOR ALL THIS! REALLY TOOK GUTS/CARING TO INFORM THE BUYER! GOOD FOR YOU AND THAT IS GOOD FOR ALL OF US THAT ARE HONEST / CARE ABOUT THE HOBBY. _____________________________ LET NOT YOUR HEART BE TROUBLED ! IF YOU NEED A BLESSING OR A SONG THAT WILL PICK YOU UP PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS SONG FROM"VAN THE MAN"MORRISON! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi4R2YXv_AE (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 10

RE: Narcotic medicine label scammer on ebay - 8/19/2008 4:31:49 PM    Jim Posts: 3599 Joined: 7/5/2005 From: Lewistown, PA Status: offline There are a lot of those McDonald laudanum labels around. They came from Reedsville, PA, which is about five minutes from where I live. The local antique stores AND Greedbay are just loaded with them. Apparently, there was a big surplus of unused labels from the company. Beware of ANY "original" labeled bottles from the McDonald Drug Co. of Reedsville, PA. _____________________________ Preserving our buried history, one pit at a time. http://www.freewebs.com/lewistownbottles/index.htm (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 11

RE: Narcotic medicine label scammer on ebay - 8/19/2008 5:57:16 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11468 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline yes, I have run across quite a few of them on an AMAZING assortment of bottle styles.  I never heard anything back from the buyer of that item. Maybe they are happy with it. If they leave the seller positive feedback I'll consider my efforts wasted The seller bought some other labels but havent seen then list any other bottles yet. Maybe they got the hint that their scam was transparent.. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to Jim) Post #: 12

RE: Narcotic medicine label scammer on ebay - 8/25/2008 7:57:46 PM    NYCFlasks Posts: 370 Joined: 9/11/2005 Status: offline This is an old scam, as so many of you know.  I have seen NOS (new old stock) labels even on dug, stained bottles.  Yes, it does diminish the hobby for all of us, I agree 100%. Anyone recall Sir Markw (I think that is his eBay name) with the glass navel boarding weapon bottles?  Last I saw him, he was selling those Persian saddle flasks as being dug in some Philly dig in the 70's, and unembossed wine bottles as some kind of Prohibition era relic. (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 13

RE: Narcotic medicine label scammer on ebay - 10/1/2008 5:11:16 PM    DeaconDave   Posts: 38 Joined: 9/22/2008 Status: offline I dont give a pinch of donky dung what ebay thinks, You did the rite thing. (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 14

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