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Need help from a jeweler! - 10/30/2008 5:13:19 PM    Tony14 Posts: 2552 Joined: 2/15/2005 From: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Status: offline Wow my new dump was very nice to me today. I didnt find any bottles whatsoever (other then some killer shards) but this came out. I know its a cameo and i think its pink coral? I started washing it off and then gold started to come through on the metal...i think this is gold plated. When i saw that i didnt want to risk any further work done too it until i talk to you guys. Can someone help with date value and how to clean it! There are no identifying marks that i can see on it. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Looking for any Fond du Lac bottle. Also looking for any embossed wisconsin medicines. And any Carters cone inks Post #: 1

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 10/30/2008 5:14:11 PM    Tony14 Posts: 2552 Joined: 2/15/2005 From: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Status: offline wow this thing is hard to get a picture of. Its very detailed.. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Looking for any Fond du Lac bottle. Also looking for any embossed wisconsin medicines. And any Carters cone inks (in reply to Tony14) Post #: 2

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 10/30/2008 5:15:11 PM    Tony14 Posts: 2552 Joined: 2/15/2005 From: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Status: offline heres a blurry one of the back. thanks for any help!! Attachment (1) _____________________________ Looking for any Fond du Lac bottle. Also looking for any embossed wisconsin medicines. And any Carters cone inks (in reply to Tony14) Post #: 3

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 10/30/2008 6:04:32 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5442 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online The better cameos were normally set in gold. If its gold plated it may be costume jewelry. That may be pink glass. Hard to tell unless you take it to an expert (not a mall jewelry store).  _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to Tony14) Post #: 4

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 10/30/2008 6:12:56 PM    Tony14 Posts: 2552 Joined: 2/15/2005 From: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Status: offline Thanks Matt. It doesnt feel like glass...but i dont know anything about this kind of stuff .  Ill probably bring it  in this week sometime. Any easy way to tell if its gold plated or set in gold? _____________________________ Looking for any Fond du Lac bottle. Also looking for any embossed wisconsin medicines. And any Carters cone inks (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 5

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 10/30/2008 6:42:46 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5442 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online its pretty obvious when you dig an item that is solid gold. Gold doesnt tarnish and when you rinse the dirt off it will look like new. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to Tony14) Post #: 6

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 10/30/2008 9:41:31 PM    capsoda Posts: 8080 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Hey Tony, It could be coral. Coral was a cheep substitute in cameos. Could also be plastic. Regardless of what history says about plastic is has been around for over 2000 years. Just before and during the Civil War plastic stones were all the rage. Most got thrown out in later years because it didn't have any real value making it super rare today. I have rebuilt several pieces of Civil War jewelry. Your frame looks like it had glued in clear glass stones or foil back stones set in it. Looks early 20th century. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 7

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 10/30/2008 10:33:52 PM    Tony14 Posts: 2552 Joined: 2/15/2005 From: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Status: offline Thanks you guys. Im thinkin its coral it doesnt have that plastic or glass feel to it. Yea i noticed the frame work missing the beads. Im going to bring this into a jeweler sometime soon. any ideas for further cleaning it? It doesnt look like its all that tarnished therers just rust spots on it covering up the gold _____________________________ Looking for any Fond du Lac bottle. Also looking for any embossed wisconsin medicines. And any Carters cone inks (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 8

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 10/31/2008 3:24:10 AM    capsoda Posts: 8080 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline A tooth brush and baking soda tooth paste. You can make a past out of plain paking soda and a little liquid soap too. That is what tooth paste is plus flavoring. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to Tony14) Post #: 9

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 10/31/2008 12:07:18 PM    Tony14 Posts: 2552 Joined: 2/15/2005 From: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Status: offline Thanks Warren _____________________________ Looking for any Fond du Lac bottle. Also looking for any embossed wisconsin medicines. And any Carters cone inks (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 10

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 11/10/2008 9:18:51 PM    Stardust Posts: 1149 Joined: 10/5/2007 From: OVER THE RAINBOW Status: offline YOU CAN HEAT A SEWING NEEDLE  A FINE POINT ONE AND GENTLY TRY TO PRICK THE BACK. THAT WILL TELL YOU IF IT'S PLASTIC  OR NOT. I LOVE OLD JEWELRY.... I'VE DONE THAT TRICK TO TELL BEFORE. GOOD LUCK. _____________________________ Live in each season as it passes; breathe the air, drink the drink, taste the fruit. -Henry David Thoreau Blessings & Love FOR 2009, star* (in reply to Tony14) Post #: 11

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 11/10/2008 10:03:54 PM    Tony14 Posts: 2552 Joined: 2/15/2005 From: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Status: offline This ones currently in the mail on its way to Warren. He'll let us know what it is _____________________________ Looking for any Fond du Lac bottle. Also looking for any embossed wisconsin medicines. And any Carters cone inks (in reply to Stardust) Post #: 12

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 11/10/2008 10:17:41 PM    madman   Posts: 4959 Joined: 2/5/2005 Status: offline yo tony, can wait to see what you find in yer  new dump  nice find bro  ... mike _____________________________ always looking for eastern TENN sodas, milks and pharms, also anything from TOLEDO OHIO and MARION VA. (in reply to Tony14) Post #: 13

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 11/10/2008 11:00:40 PM    Stardust Posts: 1149 Joined: 10/5/2007 From: OVER THE RAINBOW Status: offline YA LET US KNOW WHAT YA GOT THERE...... HAVE FUN DIGGING..... I DO IN MY DREAMS..... TAKE CARE _____________________________ Live in each season as it passes; breathe the air, drink the drink, taste the fruit. -Henry David Thoreau Blessings & Love FOR 2009, star* (in reply to madman) Post #: 14

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 11/10/2008 11:24:59 PM    Tony14 Posts: 2552 Joined: 2/15/2005 From: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Status: offline Thanks you guys! Hey Mike the creek across the street from my house was iced over this morning...dont know how much longer its gonna last haha _____________________________ Looking for any Fond du Lac bottle. Also looking for any embossed wisconsin medicines. And any Carters cone inks (in reply to Stardust) Post #: 15

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 11/11/2008 5:22:34 AM    madman   Posts: 4959 Joined: 2/5/2005 Status: offline hey tony oh yea keep forgeting about yer alls winter up there lol mike _____________________________ always looking for eastern TENN sodas, milks and pharms, also anything from TOLEDO OHIO and MARION VA. (in reply to Tony14) Post #: 16

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 11/25/2008 3:53:22 PM    Tony14 Posts: 2552 Joined: 2/15/2005 From: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Status: offline Thanks for the help Warren! He said its probably from southeastern europe the stone is glass and the Bezel is steel and was gold plated. < Message edited by Tony14 -- 12/3/2008 12:13:36 PM > _____________________________ Looking for any Fond du Lac bottle. Also looking for any embossed wisconsin medicines. And any Carters cone inks (in reply to madman) Post #: 17

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 11/26/2008 2:46:36 PM    vll970   Posts: 21 Joined: 10/6/2007 Status: offline I am from Eastern Europe and I think he is right. My great grandmother used to have one of these. (in reply to Tony14) Post #: 18

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 12/3/2008 12:14:15 PM    Tony14 Posts: 2552 Joined: 2/15/2005 From: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Status: offline hey Warren, got it back today! it looks great! thanks for the help with it _____________________________ Looking for any Fond du Lac bottle. Also looking for any embossed wisconsin medicines. And any Carters cone inks (in reply to vll970) Post #: 19

RE: Need help from a jeweler! - 12/3/2008 3:17:43 PM    capsoda Posts: 8080 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline I wish I could have done more. It was nice to be looking at an old piece again. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to Tony14) Post #: 20

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