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Old flask? - 10/22/2007 3:11:28 PM    mikepietrello   Posts: 62 Joined: 11/27/2006 Status: offline Hi all, I picked up a box of bottles out of a barn with a couple of flasks in it. This is one of them. It has a cornucopia on one side and an urn on the other with a rough pontil mark on the bottom. can anyone tell me the age? Thanks, mike Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: Old flask? - 10/22/2007 3:12:22 PM    mikepietrello   Posts: 62 Joined: 11/27/2006 Status: offline The top Attachment (1) < Message edited by mikepietrello -- 10/22/2007 3:14:26 PM > (in reply to mikepietrello) Post #: 2

RE: Old flask? - 10/22/2007 3:14:43 PM    mikepietrello   Posts: 62 Joined: 11/27/2006 Status: offline The bottom Attachment (1) (in reply to mikepietrello) Post #: 3

RE: Old flask? - 10/22/2007 4:15:08 PM    I_dig_bottles   Posts: 65 Joined: 8/31/2007 Status: offline Is that flask RED ? (in reply to mikepietrello) Post #: 4

RE: Old flask? - 10/22/2007 4:16:32 PM    otgb   Posts: 80 Joined: 4/2/2007 Status: offline looks like a repro (in reply to mikepietrello) Post #: 5

RE: Old flask? - 10/22/2007 4:21:53 PM    mikepietrello   Posts: 62 Joined: 11/27/2006 Status: offline Could be a repro but the rough pontil is throwing me off. I can't tell if it is dark amber or very dark purple (in reply to otgb) Post #: 6

RE: Old flask? - 10/22/2007 4:24:44 PM    Tony14 Posts: 2463 Joined: 2/15/2005 From: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Status: offline I dont know anything about flasks but the lip on that looks all wrong....im thinkin repro _____________________________ Looking for any Fond du Lac bottle. Also looking for any embossed wisconsin medicines. And any Carters cone inks (in reply to mikepietrello) Post #: 7

RE: Old flask? - 10/22/2007 4:25:04 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5128 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online there are repros with pontil marks. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to mikepietrello) Post #: 8

RE: Old flask? - 10/22/2007 5:15:11 PM    RICKJJ59W Posts: 3620 Joined: 3/8/2007 From: Lehigh Valley US of A Status: offline If you looked into it more and found out that was real,you would be one lucky dude.but I would have to go with Re pro to.Rick _____________________________ My Web Page.Lots of pix. Dig story's published in Antique Bottle & Glass Collector. New story added 9/08 www.19thcenturybottlediggers.com Digs in action. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pitpirate/ (in reply to mikepietrello) Post #: 9

RE: Old flask? - 10/22/2007 6:33:07 PM    cowseatmaize Posts: 2135 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Metro West, MA Status: offline Pairpoint made a repro in 1959 with pontil.  Page 687-88 McKearin AB&F&TA _____________________________ My 10¢ worth (inflation) Eric If you love what your doing it might be illegal, so watch your back. (in reply to RICKJJ59W) Post #: 10

RE: Old flask? - 10/22/2007 6:35:29 PM    mikepietrello   Posts: 62 Joined: 11/27/2006 Status: offline Here's what I have so far, The only repros of the cornucopia flask I have found have an eagle on the other side not the urn like this one. I got this one on the Mass/new Hampshire border, and I found this article The Foster Factories   The small town of Stoddard, located in the hills of Southwestern NH, was the home to numerous glasshouses through the mid 19th century. Joseph Foster, a top glassblower at the Keene-Marlboro Street glassworks, had purchased many of the assets and begun his own operations in Stoddard. His first furnace was located in South Stoddard, and blew many bottles and flasks, some that had originated from the Keene factory molds, such as the Cornucopia/ Urn flasks and the Eagle/ Cornucopia flasks, Railroad flasks, as well as blacking bottles, whiskeys, inkwells, medicine/ utility bottles and many demijohns and jars. Although wood and sand were quite plentiful in Stoddard, adequate transportation of the bottles was difficult given the isolated proximity of the town to any railways. Closest shipping points were over 20 miles away. His first furnace burned, and was rebuilt at a different location, and the financial woes continued. Over the next eight years, Foster struggled to make ends meet, and eventually sold off his property and any operations. This would be the end of Joseph Foster’s glass factory in NH, however, his children would play a role in the industry in later years. (in reply to RICKJJ59W) Post #: 11

RE: Old flask? - 10/22/2007 6:44:15 PM    Oldtimer Posts: 726 Joined: 5/13/2004 From: Effingham NH. Where else? Status: offline That last pic of the bottom is the giveaway, it's a repro. But it might still have considerable value even still, as the repro market is getting better and better. _____________________________ STOP THE CAR !! I think I see a cellarhole !!! (in reply to mikepietrello) Post #: 12

RE: Old flask? - 10/22/2007 6:48:27 PM    mikepietrello   Posts: 62 Joined: 11/27/2006 Status: offline Thanks Old Timer,Eric and everyone else It's good to know for sure, I only gave the guy 3 bucks for it so no harm done. there were some other nice ones in the box to but I believe very common. Thanks so much, Mike < Message edited by mikepietrello -- 10/22/2007 6:52:53 PM > (in reply to Oldtimer) Post #: 13

RE: Old flask? - 10/22/2007 9:09:48 PM    amblypygi Posts: 453 Joined: 4/6/2004 From: Western Massachusetts Status: offline I'm pretty sure Eric's right and that's a Pairpoint reproduction. I have one with the Pairpoint label on the base that is a similar color (deep amethyst) but it has the grasshopper on one side. The urn side of mine is identical to yours. You got a great deal on it though: it's worth at least ten times what you paid for it. I say that with absolute authority too, because I'll send you a check for $30 for it anytime  Sean < Message edited by amblypygi -- 10/22/2007 9:10:14 PM > (in reply to mikepietrello) Post #: 14

RE: Old flask? - 10/22/2007 9:41:32 PM    mikepietrello   Posts: 62 Joined: 11/27/2006 Status: offline Thanks Sean but I think i'll hold on to this one for now. I don't see a grasshopper on the side, but heres the side with the cornucopia Attachment (1) < Message edited by mikepietrello -- 10/22/2007 9:53:02 PM > (in reply to amblypygi) Post #: 15

RE: Old flask? - 10/22/2007 9:52:48 PM    amblypygi Posts: 453 Joined: 4/6/2004 From: Western Massachusetts Status: offline You're wise to hang onto it; the high quality repros will continue to go up in value, especially those blown at Clevenger Brothers and Pairpoint. I mis-spoke earlier, my grashopper flask has the cornucopia on the side, not the urn. It still looks very similar to yours and I'll bet it's pairpoint. Sean (in reply to mikepietrello) Post #: 16

RE: Old flask? - 10/23/2007 7:27:59 AM    cowseatmaize Posts: 2135 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Metro West, MA Status: offline I don't feel like typing the whole thing but the book stated that half the mold was also used on a Sturbridge Village adaptation. Pairpoint may have mix and matched a bunch of varieties from different molds.. _____________________________ My 10¢ worth (inflation) Eric If you love what your doing it might be illegal, so watch your back. (in reply to amblypygi) Post #: 17

RE: Old flask? - 10/23/2007 11:13:05 AM    amblypygi Posts: 453 Joined: 4/6/2004 From: Western Massachusetts Status: offline That explains it, the cornucopia on mine appears to be the same mold and my grasshopper is the Sturbridge Village adaptation. You can see the true color in the lower left background, it's very difficult to capture. Attachment (1) (in reply to cowseatmaize) Post #: 18

RE: Old flask? - 10/23/2007 11:16:01 AM    amblypygi Posts: 453 Joined: 4/6/2004 From: Western Massachusetts Status: offline It's a nice repro Mike, do let me know if you ever decide to sell or trade it. Sean (in reply to amblypygi) Post #: 19

RE: Old flask? - 10/23/2007 4:41:30 PM    Brains   Posts: 487 Joined: 9/2/2006 From: Hilliard/columbus ohio Status: offline if those repros are from 1959 or so than they are nice in my opinion. One of my favorite insulators is as new as 1958, same age as the repros so it's all old so it's all good. _____________________________ Let me know when the telegraph companies want their hemingray-42's back! bryan (in reply to amblypygi) Post #: 20

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