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Old or new?? - 12/17/2004 9:46:55 PM    tazmainiendigger Posts: 973 Joined: 11/21/2003 From: State O Maine Status: offline Here is a shot of yesterdays gem lol this one cost a whole dollar! I dont know what you would call it! It looks like a mini pitcher... very crude, has a pontil, a good bit of base wear and is brownish green with a hint of amethyst...any input? probally mexican? Taz Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: Old or new?? - 12/17/2004 9:48:13 PM    tazmainiendigger Posts: 973 Joined: 11/21/2003 From: State O Maine Status: offline base/ pontil Attachment (1) (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 2

RE: Old or new?? - 12/17/2004 9:51:00 PM    tazmainiendigger Posts: 973 Joined: 11/21/2003 From: State O Maine Status: offline overall... Attachment (1) (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 3

RE: Old or new?? - 12/18/2004 9:59:44 AM    lobeycat Posts: 3776 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: online Hey Taz, funkey looking piece to be sure. Definitely the handle screams Mexican. Also the solid pontil. Looking at the thickness of the base I'd say this was not meant for the market place. End of the day item because the blower broke his wife's coffee creamer that morning? I can see her cracking him in the skull with it when he gets home. Good Luck, Rich. (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 4

RE: Old or new?? - 12/18/2004 10:44:09 AM    tazmainiendigger Posts: 973 Joined: 11/21/2003 From: State O Maine Status: offline Very funny!! Nice reply Rich, that made me chuckle! You mean I wont retire of this rare stoddard piece? lol Well off to the flea market for that specimen.... Taz (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 5

RE: Old or new?? - 12/18/2004 11:24:38 AM    Monsonant   Posts: 58 Joined: 5/5/2004 From: Monson Massachusetts Status: offline Taz .... Rich is on the right trail .. its gotta be an off hand item and I think your right about it being Mexican .... for a buck ya cant go wrong !! The wear on the bottom is worth commenting on. It has that snowy white (lets make it look old ) look , with course rough scratches . Old wear is most always very fine and smooth , without deep scratches . Here is something that anyone who has not tried it , should do. Take a junk bottle and artificially put some wear on the bottom and then take a good look at it and compare it with something that has natural wear . Its a great way to learn how to spot fakes. A little 10x -100x loupe is a good thing to carry with you all the time for checking out wear . I have, however, seen wear artificially applied that is pretty near impossible to tell from old natural wear. This is usually done by rubbing the item on a wooden surface. It does not take to long to produce what at first glance looks like the real deal. Try this on different items using different methods and soon you will be able to spot faked wear most of the time. d.e.a. _____________________________ 'Not all who wander are lost.' (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 6

RE: Old or new?? - 12/19/2004 1:15:57 PM    KentOhio   Posts: 730 Joined: 9/13/2004 Status: offline I'm thinking it was a college art project. (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 7

RE: Old or new?? - 12/20/2004 8:12:48 AM    bearswede Posts: 2909 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline Taz... How was it that I thought you had "taste"? It must have been those photos of your wonderful flask collection... Now this? Just kidding, buddy... (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 8

RE: Old or new?? - 12/20/2004 11:48:01 AM    tazmainiendigger Posts: 973 Joined: 11/21/2003 From: State O Maine Status: offline Ron can you say glassaholic! O my where should I start..... lol ...I wonder what Santa might bring for christmas.. Taz Attachment (1) (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 9

RE: Old or new?? - 12/20/2004 11:49:27 AM    tazmainiendigger Posts: 973 Joined: 11/21/2003 From: State O Maine Status: offline Which case first?? Attachment (1) (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 10

RE: Old or new?? - 12/20/2004 11:51:13 AM    tazmainiendigger Posts: 973 Joined: 11/21/2003 From: State O Maine Status: offline A couple inx..... lol (hundred) Attachment (1) (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 11

RE: Old or new?? - 12/20/2004 11:53:56 AM    tazmainiendigger Posts: 973 Joined: 11/21/2003 From: State O Maine Status: offline I didn't want you to lose faith!! Attachment (1) (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 12

RE: Old or new?? - 12/20/2004 11:56:21 AM    tazmainiendigger Posts: 973 Joined: 11/21/2003 From: State O Maine Status: offline I would hate to drag them all out for close up's!! lol Have a great Holiday everyone! Taz over and out..... Attachment (1) (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 13

RE: Old or new?? - 12/20/2004 12:52:56 PM    David E Posts: 995 Joined: 5/24/2004 Status: offline Hey Taz I am going to stick my neck out and get jumped on, but I think it is old, due to. The bottom if the picture is showing it right shows the normal smouth wear and the the items that appear as scratches, look more of a cracking to me. Also I have always believed the an applied handle (which this seems to have)are the best. A slight showing of amthest(sp) would be that they didn't put enough maganize into the batch, must of us know these things, so why the Mexican. Only two things that would make me beleive it was Mexican and not old, is if there are a lot little bubbles and no long ones. I go along with the end of the day and from the bottom of pot and not proper anealing. Looks like an unusual Crute or small milk or syrup. And the mess he made does deserve a smack on the head. So tell me where I went wrong or just maybe close to right. Thanks Dave Also just looked again at bottom and the wear mark is only about 1/4 around the item, which makes me beleive it was lop sided < Message edited by David E -- 12/20/2004 1:03:25 PM > (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 14

RE: Old or new?? - 12/20/2004 3:42:54 PM    bearswede Posts: 2909 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline OK OK I take it back!!!! Now I'm drooling... Happy Holidays, yourself!!! PS: Will you be in Attleboro for the Little Rhody show? I've got a table... Ron < Message edited by bearswede -- 12/20/2004 3:46:25 PM > (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 15

RE: Old or new?? - 12/20/2004 3:46:24 PM    tazmainiendigger Posts: 973 Joined: 11/21/2003 From: State O Maine Status: offline Dave it has bubbles most are long , the upper base section has many surface cracks like it cooled too rapidly, the base wear is not white( bad lightning) and there is a mixture of coarse with fine wear visable under a 15X loupe, just not enough scratches to make me think that it is as ancient as it looks! I bet it was some beginners glass project... Taz Attachment (1) (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 16

RE: Old or new?? - 12/20/2004 3:51:41 PM    TSUNK   Posts: 6 Joined: 11/26/2004 Status: offline BOTTLES LIKE THAT GIVE ME A RUSH ! I AM IN THE PROCESS OF DISPAYING MY COLLECTABLES BUT IT WON'T LOOK AS NICE. FROZEN IN UPSTATE N.Y. NOW IT IS TIME TIME TO CLEAN SUMMER DIGS. GREAT PHOTOS TOM (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 17

RE: Old or new?? - 12/20/2004 4:08:41 PM    tazmainiendigger Posts: 973 Joined: 11/21/2003 From: State O Maine Status: offline Thanx! I bought those cases last week brass,glass and mirrors they go from the floor to ceiling and the length of the room , that is just some of them... Heres a couple masters hope you all like old bottles haha Attachment (1) (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 18

RE: Old or new?? - 12/20/2004 4:20:43 PM    tazmainiendigger Posts: 973 Joined: 11/21/2003 From: State O Maine Status: offline One last one! My pet turttle! This one came from the floorboards of a old house in N.Y. Allings blue-Green with full labels!! Allings 1871 Jet Black School ink MINT!! Attachment (1) (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 19

RE: Old or new?? - 12/20/2004 4:30:27 PM    bearswede Posts: 2909 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, Taz... But that label has a tear in it!! For shame!!! Well, you've certainly put my teeny collection to shame... I guess I'll donate it to charity and start collecting snoglobes, ha ha... Ron (in reply to tazmainiendigger) Post #: 20

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