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One Of The Rarest Balt. Blob Sodas - 7/29/2011 9:57:11 AM    waskey   Posts: 1530 Joined: 12/6/2008 From: ellicott city,md Status: offline I was able to add this very rare beautiful blob top Baltimore steamer soda bottle to the collection recently. It is embossed O.D. Bates / Balto. This bottle is not listed in the Baltimore Bottle Book and neither is the name O.D. Bates. They list different style bottles(round bottom and gravitating stopper) from an O.B. Bates. Maybe this is an error bottle, or perhaps O.D. Bates was a relative of O.B. Bates. The bottle is in great condition and a very nice addition to my Baltimore blob top soda collection. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Looking to purchase any bottles from Ellicott City, Maryland that I don't have!! Also milks from these following MD towns:Woodlawn, Catonsville, Elkridge. Post #: 1

RE: One Of The Rarest Balt. Blob Sodas - 7/29/2011 9:30:48 PM    Sodasandbeers   Posts: 281 Joined: 4/29/2009 Status: offline There is a primitve pottery bottle marked "D. D. BATES" could it be from Baltimore. _____________________________ Tod visit: www.sodasandbeers.com (in reply to waskey) Post #: 2

RE: One Of The Rarest Balt. Blob Sodas - 7/29/2011 10:16:07 PM    waskey   Posts: 1530 Joined: 12/6/2008 From: ellicott city,md Status: offline Possibly. I have never seen one before though. Maybe it should say O.D. Bates and it is an error which could make my bottle not an error and a different guy than O.B. Bates. Ill have to check with the Baltimore guys on it. _____________________________ Looking to purchase any bottles from Ellicott City, Maryland that I don't have!! Also milks from these following MD towns:Woodlawn, Catonsville, Elkridge. (in reply to Sodasandbeers) Post #: 3

RE: One Of The Rarest Balt. Blob Sodas - 7/29/2011 10:45:47 PM    Sodasandbeers   Posts: 281 Joined: 4/29/2009 Status: offline Found the following Baltimore Directory listings which nicely date your bottle 1881-1883: 1880 Bates, Dr. B. tonic beer, factory 80 Centre mkt sp, dw 7 Pitcher 1880 Bates, Oscar D. clerk, 14 Etting 1881 Bates, Oscar D. tonic Beer, 80 Centre market sp, dw 14 Etting 1882 Bates, Oscar D. tonic Beer, 80 Centre market sp, dw 14 Etting 1883 Bates, Oscar D. tonic Beer, 80 Centre market sp, dw 14 Etting 1884 No entry _____________________________ Tod visit: www.sodasandbeers.com (in reply to waskey) Post #: 4

RE: One Of The Rarest Balt. Blob Sodas - 7/30/2011 10:42:47 AM    waskey   Posts: 1530 Joined: 12/6/2008 From: ellicott city,md Status: offline Thanks for doing some research on the bottle Tod. I really appreciate it. Apparently Bates wasn't in business very long so no wonder its a rare bottle. _____________________________ Looking to purchase any bottles from Ellicott City, Maryland that I don't have!! Also milks from these following MD towns:Woodlawn, Catonsville, Elkridge. (in reply to Sodasandbeers) Post #: 5

RE: One Of The Rarest Balt. Blob Sodas - 8/9/2011 9:13:05 AM    redbeardrelics   Posts: 94 Joined: 9/29/2006 Status: offline Good info Tod, I was wondering if you saw anything in your research that indicated if Oscar D. Bates was a son of Oscar B. Bates, of round bottomed "1876 Centennial Tonic Beer" fame? Or, if perhaps he is the same person, but the "B" in the earlier O. B. Bates embossings was in error? thanks, Chris (in reply to waskey) Post #: 6

RE: One Of The Rarest Balt. Blob Sodas - 8/9/2011 6:38:39 PM    Sodasandbeers   Posts: 281 Joined: 4/29/2009 Status: offline Chris, Earlier directory listing have O. B. as a clerk for Dr. Bates. Have to assume he was related in some way. I did not dig into the Census records, which may indicate a relationship. The elder Bates started life as a confectioner and somewhere along the line aquired the "DR" title. I suspect the DD Bates is an error, but was it for Dr Bates or OB or a typo in the reference that I used. Has anyone seen a mead bottle marked this way? _____________________________ Tod visit: www.sodasandbeers.com (in reply to redbeardrelics) Post #: 7

RE: One Of The Rarest Balt. Blob Sodas - 8/10/2011 9:31:18 AM    phil44   Posts: 453 Joined: 11/27/2006 Status: offline Good stuff guys! _____________________________ Theres only one way to find out (in reply to Sodasandbeers) Post #: 8

RE: One Of The Rarest Balt. Blob Sodas - 8/10/2011 10:30:48 AM    redbeardrelics   Posts: 94 Joined: 9/29/2006 Status: offline Hey Tod, Thanks for the info. I haven't seen any Bates stoneware bottles, to offer any info on them. I have seen a few stoneware handled jugs from the Baltimore Bates, but was not collecting them, so do not remember if they were impressed with "Dr.", "O.B.", "D.D.", or "O.D." ?? The Bates(s) certainly used some creative containers for the products they marketed, so it would not surprise me too much to find that they also had a stoneware bottle, even though it would not have been the norm for the type products they are known to have sold. (in reply to phil44) Post #: 9

RE: One Of The Rarest Balt. Blob Sodas - 8/10/2011 8:45:22 PM    Erik T   Posts: 119 Joined: 7/4/2010 From: Toronto Status: offline Nice bottle looks insanely clean. Waskey do you or anyone else from baltimore know what a franz theone steamer blob with the eagle normally goes for? I picked one up here in toronto for 3 bucks along with another baltimore med at a yard sale. Sorry for going off topic but I just thought I'd aske before I forget. (in reply to redbeardrelics) Post #: 10

RE: One Of The Rarest Balt. Blob Sodas - 8/10/2011 9:06:18 PM    waskey   Posts: 1530 Joined: 12/6/2008 From: ellicott city,md Status: offline Erik T, funny you asked, I just aquired that bottle, is the eagle facing left or right? _____________________________ Looking to purchase any bottles from Ellicott City, Maryland that I don't have!! Also milks from these following MD towns:Woodlawn, Catonsville, Elkridge. (in reply to Erik T) Post #: 11

RE: One Of The Rarest Balt. Blob Sodas - 8/11/2011 6:19:08 PM    Erik T   Posts: 119 Joined: 7/4/2010 From: Toronto Status: offline cool. The eagle faces to the left. The bottle has a lip chip and is stained but for 3 bucks it was a good buy i think. (in reply to waskey) Post #: 12

RE: One Of The Rarest Balt. Blob Sodas - 8/12/2011 8:09:13 PM    waskey   Posts: 1530 Joined: 12/6/2008 From: ellicott city,md Status: offline The ones with the eagle facing left like the ones you and I have are common, I'd say in the condition your describing yours in, like $5 or so. I paid $20 for my mint example. _____________________________ Looking to purchase any bottles from Ellicott City, Maryland that I don't have!! Also milks from these following MD towns:Woodlawn, Catonsville, Elkridge. (in reply to Erik T) Post #: 13

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