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Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 10:24:51 AM    epgorge Posts: 2410 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline Picked this up for $5 bucks today... I have no idea what I am doing with repro's but I knew right away it was a repro. The roundness of some of the panels and the lips appearance said repro on it. Plus, it was sitting next to a bunch of clevengers and wheatons. Anyone know anything about the year of this bottle or how I would/could determine it. Joel Attachment (1) _____________________________ Post #: 1

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 3:53:30 PM    whiskeyman Posts: 2015 Joined: 4/17/2005 From: NE TENN-SW VA Status: offline JOEL...hard ta say for sure from the one pic, but it looks like the real deal to me...Am not familiar with any Pikes Peak repRoes of this type...."type" being: made in Pittsburgh glass houses. You got a steal for $5. _____________________________ * Member: Bristol Historical Assoc...and, Friends of Steeles Creek Nature Center & Park President: Bristol Tenn-Va Bottle Club Author of: Spirits & Medicinal Bottles of Bristol,TN-VA. My WebSite: www.bristol-tenn-va-bottles.com (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 2

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 4:29:22 PM    cowseatmaize Posts: 2135 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Metro West, MA Status: offline Looks right to me, even the aqua. Give a detail. Back side, anything in the oval, size? MORE PICS, WE WANT MORE PICS!!!!! Besides, $5, how can you go wrong. Sell it on ebay as a wheaton for $105. _____________________________ My 10¢ worth (inflation) Eric If you love what your doing it might be illegal, so watch your back. (in reply to whiskeyman) Post #: 3

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 4:47:41 PM    epgorge Posts: 2410 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline WEll maybe I should go back and get the rest of them. she had a Washington Clevenger, purplish and couple of others including a Jenny Linde. Joel _____________________________ (in reply to cowseatmaize) Post #: 4

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 4:55:10 PM    epgorge Posts: 2410 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline Guys, I am rocking the Lakes Region right now. I will post more pics when I get home. I know the lady and will call her tonight to secure the rest if they are still available. I had no idea repros's were that valuable. I see these pikes peaks all the time. There is allot of bubbles through it. The lip is very tooled and drippy. It is wicked whittled!! It is a qt at least. I will measure it when i get home. Thanks for the thrill, if even for a short time. Someone here once said, even a blind sow will find a corn cob every once in a while. Joel Joel < Message edited by epgorge -- 6/2/2007 5:22:09 PM > _____________________________ (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 5

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 4:58:57 PM    cowseatmaize Posts: 2135 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Metro West, MA Status: offline Tooled ain't usually drippy. It sounds like a laid on string, which is what a real one would be. _____________________________ My 10¢ worth (inflation) Eric If you love what your doing it might be illegal, so watch your back. (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 6

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 5:17:59 PM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1470 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline Looks like the real deal to me also. It may have been mixed in with a bunch of repros. There is a member of this forum that bought a Green Dexter Loveridge Bitters at a church sale ( if I remember correctly ) for I believe 5.00 . She sold it a few months later to a California collector for 10,000.00 . She was not a bottle collector and had no idea what she had.....she just thought it was pretty . I about died when she posted pics of it on the forum and told her story. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most ! Always looking to buy or trade for Drake's Plantation Bitters and Drake's go-withs . And Tennessee Bottles and Jugs ! (in reply to cowseatmaize) Post #: 7

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 6:01:04 PM    cowseatmaize Posts: 2135 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Metro West, MA Status: offline Things like that can open a whole new topic of ethical debate. Is it any different to know a repro, not say it and sell for big $$$ than to know it's real and buy it as a thought repro for next to nothing? Hmmm? I'm thinking someones getting suckered in either circumstance. See this too. http://www.antique-bottles.net/forum/m-107003/mpage-1/key-/tm.htm#108639 _____________________________ My 10¢ worth (inflation) Eric If you love what your doing it might be illegal, so watch your back. (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 8

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 7:37:09 PM    epgorge Posts: 2410 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline It does raise many ethical questions. I suppose knowledge is power. I bought it thinking it was a repro and it may turn out to be a real one. If that is the case, I will probably give her more money for it, as I know her. The question raised brings to mind when I got ripped off, paying $106 dollars for something that was a repro. Nobody wanted to give me my money back. I suppose it all comes out int he wash. I am attempting to contact her but first I want to make sure it is real. Here are some more pictures. It stands 9 inches tall. The lip does have an applied top. The bottom is smooth, I suspect a hindge mold (?). There is no line going through the cental mark. Attachment (1) _____________________________ (in reply to cowseatmaize) Post #: 9

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 7:38:16 PM    epgorge Posts: 2410 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline . Attachment (1) _____________________________ (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 10

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 7:39:04 PM    epgorge Posts: 2410 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline lip Attachment (1) _____________________________ (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 11

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 7:40:15 PM    epgorge Posts: 2410 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline . Attachment (1) _____________________________ (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 12

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 7:41:27 PM    epgorge Posts: 2410 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline . Attachment (1) _____________________________ (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 13

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 7:42:46 PM    epgorge Posts: 2410 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline This bottom is what made me think it was a repro. Attachment (1) _____________________________ (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 14

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 7:45:20 PM    epgorge Posts: 2410 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline Now I wait with bated breath awaiting news it is a win for today. Then I will decide what to do with the seller. She has others. One is a clevengers bros. I think Ben Franklin on it.... she had a darkish Jenny Lind and another one I really thought may be real, it was a cornacopia flask, I believe. It too had the same bottom as this one but it had a line through the middle of the bottom. Joel _____________________________ (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 15

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 8:13:50 PM    epgorge Posts: 2410 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline http://cgi.ebay.com/Pikes-Peak-Ceredo-GXI-36-Aqua-For-Pikes-Peak-Flask_W0QQitemZ170113563856QQihZ007QQcategoryZ891QQcmdZViewItem This looks a bit different than the one I have. _____________________________ (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 16

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 9:50:26 PM    cowseatmaize Posts: 2135 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Metro West, MA Status: offline Pikes Peak has it's own catagory GXI-1 through 54. I still say real. Early Clev's are great too. The 30's pontil stuff is desireable also. _____________________________ My 10¢ worth (inflation) Eric If you love what your doing it might be illegal, so watch your back. (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 17

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 10:34:13 PM    whiskeyman Posts: 2015 Joined: 4/17/2005 From: NE TENN-SW VA Status: offline JOEL...definitely NOT a repRo...but an authentic Pikes Peak. AS for McK#, that is usually based upon the details of the Prospector as most had a similar "Pittsburgh Eagle" embossing on theObverse. The base mold seam is what I usually/used to call a "hinge mold" seam ...and  the flask was held for finishing by a snap case. GREAT BUY ! Check out the Cornucopia and the Jenny Lind....both could be the real deal. Before buying, take some pix and post em....Maybe we could better advise.... _____________________________ * Member: Bristol Historical Assoc...and, Friends of Steeles Creek Nature Center & Park President: Bristol Tenn-Va Bottle Club Author of: Spirits & Medicinal Bottles of Bristol,TN-VA. My WebSite: www.bristol-tenn-va-bottles.com (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 18

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 11:01:53 PM    cowseatmaize Posts: 2135 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Metro West, MA Status: offline Cornicopia was reproduced but not widely. Jennys were. Usually if it has a 2 story building, it's real. Buyt them all for $5 each and I'll give you $10 sight unseen!!! Hows that sound!!!LOL Oh, plus shipping of coarse. _____________________________ My 10¢ worth (inflation) Eric If you love what your doing it might be illegal, so watch your back. (in reply to whiskeyman) Post #: 19

RE: Pikes Peak - 6/2/2007 11:31:54 PM    L C   Posts: 1506 Joined: 3/17/2007 From: Ohio Status: offline I have to agree with you Joel, looking at the bottom, that sure looks like a fake pontil to me, but then too, in all my years of collecting, I have never heard fo a repro Pikes Peak. Lord only knows today though, seems everything out there is beong reproduced in one way or another. (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 20

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