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Pontiled torpedo, London - 10/2/2011 3:28:34 PM    deepbluedigger   Posts: 594 Joined: 1/12/2006 From: Yorkshire, England Status: offline Had a good day at a bottle show today. Picked up several nice pieces of glass, but sold enough stoneware that the glass 'cost' me nothing. This dark green torpedo from the 1820s was a surprise towards the end of the show. Not really mint due to a matt surface and some scratches, but no chips or cracks, and a beautiful patina. Dug within the past couple of months not far from where I live: a late throw-out found among early 20th century rubbish. The dark marks in the neck are patina on the inside. I won't be getting this one cleaned. Embossed "Hamiltons Patent / Aerated Waters & c / Sold By R. Johnston / 15 Greek St London". I've been looking for one of these for a long time: Robt Johnston's name crops up repeatedly in patent medicine advertisements from the 1790s through to the 1830s and later. A very nice go-with for the medicines collection. Attachment (1) < Message edited by deepbluedigger -- 10/2/2011 3:30:34 PM > _____________________________ www.diggersdiary.co.uk Post #: 1

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 10/2/2011 3:41:20 PM    beendiggin Posts: 3005 Joined: 6/30/2005 Status: offline Sweet looking and I wouldn't clean it either. _____________________________ Paul (in reply to deepbluedigger) Post #: 2

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 10/2/2011 3:49:21 PM    luckiest   Posts: 227 Joined: 1/12/2010 Status: online outstanding! (in reply to beendiggin) Post #: 3

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 10/2/2011 4:51:21 PM    peejrey   Posts: 1608 Joined: 7/4/2010 From: Hickman TN Status: offline Pretty _____________________________ ___Preston J. Reyome___ ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• Collector of Tennessee Bottle and Labeled Medicines (in reply to luckiest) Post #: 4

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 10/2/2011 9:48:53 PM    baltbottles   Posts: 2301 Joined: 11/25/2002 From: Baltimore Maryland Status: offline That is a great early bottle Jerry, Congratulations on getting it. Chris _____________________________ Please visit my website Antique Bottles Of Baltimore at : www.baltimorebottles.com Looking to buy Pontiled Baltimore bottles of all types Email me at baltimorebottles@gmail.com (in reply to peejrey) Post #: 5

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 10/2/2011 9:54:57 PM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9807 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: offline Wow!  Love it. _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to baltbottles) Post #: 6

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 10/3/2011 7:08:59 PM    David Fertig   Posts: 693 Joined: 3/26/2010 Status: offline A little outside my collecting area, but I could find some shelf space for it. Much nicer then the newer English stuff that shows up at the shoppes around here. (in reply to JOETHECROW) Post #: 7

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 10/3/2011 7:19:12 PM    Ace10Tex   Posts: 63 Joined: 4/21/2011 Status: offline Jerry , very cool looking older bottle. I like the torpedo bottles and the crudeness of this one makes it not just early very desirable i my book!! Great find and congrats!! Ace (in reply to David Fertig) Post #: 8

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 10/3/2011 7:38:07 PM    RICKJJ59W Posts: 11905 Joined: 3/8/2007 From: Lehigh Valley US of A Status: offline Wow they found that with 20th century junk?? man they must have been doing back flips when it popped  out!   "ya never know" < Message edited by RICKJJ59W -- 10/3/2011 7:39:39 PM > _____________________________ My web site. Lots of privy and dump dig pictures. Also dig story's I had published in Antique Bottle & Glass Collector magazine and Western & Eastern Treasure's www.19thcenturybottlediggers.com (in reply to deepbluedigger) Post #: 9

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 10/3/2011 8:15:54 PM    Wheelah23 Posts: 4296 Joined: 8/9/2010 From: Glen Ridge, New Jersey Status: offline Really cool bottle! Always nice to get a rare one you've been looking for. _____________________________ Looking for bottles from Glen Ridge, Montclair, Bloomfield, Orange, East Orange, West Orange, South Orange, and if I like 'em, any other bottles from Essex County NJ! Also Manahawkin NJ! Message me if you want to find them a new home. (in reply to deepbluedigger) Post #: 10

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 10/4/2011 7:12:36 AM    sandchip Posts: 1647 Joined: 9/1/2008 From: georgia Status: offline What a smoker!  That is beautiful. _____________________________ Jimbo (in reply to Wheelah23) Post #: 11

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 1/21/2012 3:26:40 AM    deepbluedigger   Posts: 594 Joined: 1/12/2006 From: Yorkshire, England Status: offline You wait 20 years to get your hands on one, and then two come along within a couple of months. Recently picked up this black glass 1810 - 1820 example to go with the green 1820 - 1830 one from last year. Attachment (1) _____________________________ www.diggersdiary.co.uk (in reply to sandchip) Post #: 12

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 1/21/2012 3:28:56 AM    deepbluedigger   Posts: 594 Joined: 1/12/2006 From: Yorkshire, England Status: offline These usually have very whittled embossing, hard to read as though blown into a very cold (or very old / worn) mold. This one has crisp embossing unlike any other of the type I've seen. It's a bit faint towards the base on this side, although all still readable (Sold by / R.Johnston / 15 Greek St Soho / London). Attachment (1) < Message edited by deepbluedigger -- 1/21/2012 3:32:51 AM > _____________________________ www.diggersdiary.co.uk (in reply to deepbluedigger) Post #: 13

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 1/21/2012 3:30:49 AM    deepbluedigger   Posts: 594 Joined: 1/12/2006 From: Yorkshire, England Status: offline .... and here it is with the one picked up in October. Almost identical embossing, but on the green it's in 4 lines equally spaced around the bottle, and on the black it's seven lines, 3 on one side and 4 on the other. Attachment (1) _____________________________ www.diggersdiary.co.uk (in reply to deepbluedigger) Post #: 14

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 1/21/2012 5:00:12 AM    Poison_Us Posts: 2954 Joined: 5/27/2009 From: Savannah, Ga. Status: offline That's nice glass! _____________________________ Poison Us Member: APBCA ( www.poisonbottleclub.org ) Visit Us @: www.poisonousaddiction.com Looking for digging partners in/near Savannah. Be a friend. Give the "GIFT" of Poison. (in reply to deepbluedigger) Post #: 15

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 1/21/2012 10:00:40 AM    Lordbud   Posts: 2297 Joined: 6/16/2005 From: San Jose Status: offline Beautiful examples! Do embossed soda/mineral waters run any earlier than those two in the U.K.? Definitely should not be "cleaned" -- the glass has all the character left on it from history. _____________________________ Jason San Francisco Bay Area bottles and go-withs. (in reply to Poison_Us) Post #: 16

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 1/21/2012 5:29:09 PM    baltbottles   Posts: 2301 Joined: 11/25/2002 From: Baltimore Maryland Status: offline Another great bottle Jerry. How many early torpedoes do you have? Chris _____________________________ Please visit my website Antique Bottles Of Baltimore at : www.baltimorebottles.com Looking to buy Pontiled Baltimore bottles of all types Email me at baltimorebottles@gmail.com (in reply to Lordbud) Post #: 17

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 1/21/2012 6:28:42 PM    surfaceone Posts: 7134 Joined: 12/9/2008 Status: offline Howdy Jerry, Holy Hopping Hamiltons, man! Outstanding acquisitions, sir! I don't know how I missed the first round of this thread. The patination on the first is absolutely killer. Lemme axe you about the newest, with the early part of your date range, wouldn't this be within the very first few years of aerated waters bottled in Britain? If you are so inclined, I'd love to see more photos, please. (in reply to deepbluedigger) Post #: 18

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 1/21/2012 6:52:06 PM    Plumbata Posts: 1658 Joined: 12/4/2007 Status: offline Beautiful bottles, congratulations! I also agree that the bottle is perfect as-is. That pretty iridescent sheen gives it even more character. _____________________________ Alterius non sit qui suus esse potest. Advertisements contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper. - Thomas Jefferson (in reply to surfaceone) Post #: 19

RE: Pontiled torpedo, London - 1/21/2012 7:00:37 PM    Wheelah23 Posts: 4296 Joined: 8/9/2010 From: Glen Ridge, New Jersey Status: offline Great bottles, and unlike most American bottles I've seen! I love the new addition, the glass looks perfect, and the embossing is quite cool. _____________________________ Looking for bottles from Glen Ridge, Montclair, Bloomfield, Orange, East Orange, West Orange, South Orange, and if I like 'em, any other bottles from Essex County NJ! Also Manahawkin NJ! Message me if you want to find them a new home. (in reply to deepbluedigger) Post #: 20

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