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Pontils and ACL's - 2/3/2006 4:54:09 PM    youngpup Posts: 108 Joined: 12/9/2005 From: Pennsylvania Status: offline I'm new to soda collecting and was wondering if anyone could enlighten me in the difference between pontils and ACL's. Also...how do you identify the years in coke bottles? Post #: 1

RE: Pontils and ACL's - 2/3/2006 7:19:41 PM    Gunsmoke47 Posts: 1155 Joined: 12/29/2003 From: TEXAS Status: offline Hey Youngpup, ACL is short for Applied Colored Label. These were on sodas from the 1930's through the 1970's I believe. Some of the soda collectors can tell you for sure on the actual dates. A pontil is actually a scar that was caused on the base of bottles due to the way bottles were made at that time. Most pontil scarred bottles predate 1860. (This is U.S. bottles) There is open pontil, and iron pontil (also known as improved pontil). Open pontil scarred bottles have jagged glass in the center of the base of the bottle. Iron pontil scarred bottles are harder to identify as iron residue over a period of years, can be lost . I hope I haven't totally confused you and maybe some other members can aide in my description. There is about 100 years difference in a pontil scarred bottle and an ACL soda. Hope this helps, Kelley PS. I can't help you with identifying coke bottles, but they're plenty here who can! < Message edited by Gunsmoke47 -- 2/3/2006 6:21:24 PM > (in reply to youngpup) Post #: 2

RE: Pontils and ACL's - 2/3/2006 9:24:23 PM    youngpup Posts: 108 Joined: 12/9/2005 From: Pennsylvania Status: offline Thanks alot...that helps alot...I might post up some cokes and pepsi's tomorrow...gonna go dig a virgin dump i found...thanks again for all your help ~~Jesse~~ (in reply to youngpup) Post #: 3

RE: Pontils and ACL's - 2/3/2006 11:56:21 PM    whiskeyman Posts: 2012 Joined: 4/17/2005 From: NE TENN-SW VA Status: offline YOUNGPUP... here's a pic of bottle types used by Coca-Cola through the years...Hope you can make out the dates. 1st hobbleskirt was Patd Nov 16 1915 2nd was Dec 25, 1923 3rd has Pat D 105529 Next has Trade Mark Registered...think it was circa 1950s...(relying on memory here)... Here's a link to a site that kind of explains the types and when City names were added, removed ,and then re-added...also covers (briefly) Flavor Bottles. http://www2.coca-cola.com/heritage/collectorscolumns_bottles.html Attachment (1) _____________________________ * Member: Bristol Historical Assoc....and... Friends of Steeles Creek Nature Center & Park President: Bristol Tenn-Va Bottle Club Author of: Spirits & Medicinal Bottles of Bristol,TN-VA. My WebSite: www.bristol-tenn-va-bottles.com (in reply to youngpup) Post #: 4

RE: Pontils and ACL's - 2/5/2006 11:10:07 AM    youngpup Posts: 108 Joined: 12/9/2005 From: Pennsylvania Status: offline I wasn't able to go to the dump yesterday It rained hard and soaked everything. Thanks for the site on cocacola whiskeyman. It helped a lot. (in reply to youngpup) Post #: 5

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