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Pre-columbian??? - 7/21/2007 8:32:58 PM    bearswede Posts: 2912 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline Anyone up on pre-columbian pottery? When I first saw this in the antique shop, I thought it must be a modern reproduction... Now I'm thinking maybe not... Whatch'all think? Ron Attachment (1) < Message edited by bearswede -- 7/21/2007 8:40:29 PM > _____________________________ "I LOVE Wolfies!!!!!!!!!!!!" Post #: 1

RE: Pre-columbian??? - 7/21/2007 8:36:16 PM    bearswede Posts: 2912 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline Profile... Attachment (1) _____________________________ "I LOVE Wolfies!!!!!!!!!!!!" (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 2

RE: Pre-columbian??? - 7/21/2007 8:38:39 PM    bearswede Posts: 2912 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline Bird's eye... Attachment (1) _____________________________ "I LOVE Wolfies!!!!!!!!!!!!" (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 3

RE: Pre-columbian??? - 7/21/2007 8:42:37 PM    bearswede Posts: 2912 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline Back-side... Attachment (1) _____________________________ "I LOVE Wolfies!!!!!!!!!!!!" (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 4

RE: Pre-columbian??? - 7/22/2007 5:41:15 AM    bearswede Posts: 2912 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline Come on, now... Don't be shy... It's just another old pottery jar... Ron _____________________________ "I LOVE Wolfies!!!!!!!!!!!!" (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 5

RE: Pre-columbian??? - 7/22/2007 10:12:06 AM    lobeycat Posts: 4026 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline K Ronny here we go. this stuff can be tricky, sticky and down right dicky. There are a lot of reproductions of these things as you know. touristy type, roadside mexican made goodies made for folks just like me. Some of it's nice though, but basically nic-nac dust collecting paperweights. 70% of the real stuff is on the shelves illegaly and the other 30% commands high high prices, usually at auctions. The chances of you finding a legal, piece of pre- columbian art in pristine condition at a rt.20 antique antique store, with out the seller knowing what he/she has is slim, Slim. The state of preservation would be a remarkable thing indeed on your piece. Look at her shine you crazy diamond.  Of course what the hell do I know from ancient artifacts? I'd answer any of your queries whether I knew the answer or was just talking through my hat. Rick. (edit) I like it what ever it is! R. < Message edited by lobeycat -- 7/22/2007 10:19:26 AM > (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 6

RE: Pre-columbian??? - 7/22/2007 12:34:18 PM    capsoda Posts: 8088 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Yep, Hard to tell from pics Ron. I have seen a few pieces that looked like they were made yesterday that were real and many that looked old that were fakes. But I'd say that the markings on the fore head look Western American more than Mexican Indian or South American but the piece looks like it would be from south of the boarder. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to lobeycat) Post #: 7

RE: Pre-columbian??? - 7/23/2007 3:18:03 AM    Just Dig it   Posts: 299 Joined: 5/7/2007 Status: offline i smell a pink floyd fan = ) (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 8

RE: Pre-columbian??? - 7/23/2007 4:18:43 AM    justadddirt   Posts: 523 Joined: 3/8/2007 From: West Central Penna. Status: offline Hey Eric!!!  4:20 AM & am Comfortably Numb _____________________________ Gary (in reply to Just Dig it) Post #: 9

RE: Pre-columbian??? - 7/23/2007 6:09:07 AM    zanes_antiques Posts: 2031 Joined: 9/3/2006 From: Steubenville, Ohio Status: offline  I'd go with my first instinct and say that it's more than likely a good replica. I'll be singing that song all day long. _____________________________ I buy, sell, barter, and beg....Zane (in reply to justadddirt) Post #: 10

RE: Pre-columbian??? - 7/23/2007 8:34:23 AM    bearswede Posts: 2912 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline Thanks for your thoughts, guys... Here's a similar piece on ebay... It's a stirrup flask rather than a jar but the overall form and stylistic elements are similar... http://cgi.ebay.com/Pre-Columbian-MOCHE-POLYCHROME-STIRRUP-GUERERRO-VESSEL_W0QQitemZ260138634398QQihZ016QQcategoryZ37908QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Ron < Message edited by bearswede -- 7/23/2007 8:36:19 AM > _____________________________ "I LOVE Wolfies!!!!!!!!!!!!" (in reply to zanes_antiques) Post #: 11

RE: Pre-columbian??? - 2/29/2008 4:06:17 PM    bearswede Posts: 2912 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline The expert I sent the photos to FINALLY got back to me... Here's what he said: Hi there,   Looks OK.  Probably Moche III or IV, worth maybe $1500ish full retail.  Would have to see it to be sure...   --- Artemis Gallery Ancient World Art 400 W. South Boulder Rd., #1300 - Lafayette, CO� 80026 Tel (720) 890-7700, Fax (720) 890-4946 www.artemisgallery.com   Ron _____________________________ "I LOVE Wolfies!!!!!!!!!!!!" (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 12

RE: Pre-columbian??? - 2/29/2008 4:14:47 PM    tigue710 Posts: 1993 Joined: 7/11/2007 From: connecticut Status: online wow cool!  what did you pay for it Ron? _____________________________ aint no bottles in there.... (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 13

RE: Pre-columbian??? - 2/29/2008 4:26:14 PM    bearswede Posts: 2912 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline $19 with tax... R _____________________________ "I LOVE Wolfies!!!!!!!!!!!!" (in reply to tigue710) Post #: 14

RE: Pre-columbian??? - 2/29/2008 4:30:45 PM    lobeycat Posts: 4026 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline Hell yeah RonSwede! You have a good eye boyo. I would have walked right by it if it had a $15 sticker on it. Mumbling under my breath "junk" Time to find the right outlet for that beautiful piece. Lobes. _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36b6zt-P7eQ nobody (in reply to tigue710) Post #: 15

RE: Pre-columbian??? - 2/29/2008 6:04:18 PM    madpaddla Posts: 2845 Joined: 12/29/2005 From: The great state of New England Status: offline Time for me to go shopping with Ron dizzle.  Nice find. _____________________________ It pays to look down. Ebay stuff http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZspliffybigfeetQQhtZ-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ckIv1tiaU&feature=related (in reply to lobeycat) Post #: 16

RE: Pre-columbian??? - 2/29/2008 8:05:51 PM    Gunsmoke47 Posts: 1161 Joined: 12/29/2003 From: TEXAS Status: offline Way too cool Swedeman!  I would have walked right by it!  Smoke.......Score! (in reply to madpaddla) Post #: 17

RE: Pre-columbian??? - 2/29/2008 9:11:11 PM    tigue710 Posts: 1993 Joined: 7/11/2007 From: connecticut Status: online not bad! _____________________________ aint no bottles in there.... (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 18

RE: Pre-columbian??? - 2/29/2008 11:08:32 PM    capsoda Posts: 8088 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Way to go Ron!!! We goin pout for steak and a brewsky???  Great find. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to tigue710) Post #: 19

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