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Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 9:08:48 AM   
bearswede


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Status: offline 		Anyone have a value for a light cobalt Price's? Why is it a medicinal? What did it contain? Why a candle company?

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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 10:15:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Price's Patent Candle Co. was just that, a candle company. They made candles, parafins, dyes, holders etc.. I think I saw a light cobalt on ebay at about 90 and the dark cobalt go for over $100. The light I believe was later and some if not all were ABM, is yours? I had 2 of the dark I sold in the 80's for $35 ea. Wish I had them now.

They're still around.
Price's Patent Candle Co.
Clich the HISTORY tab

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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 10:29:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		They are British imports (that's probably common knowledge).
They must have been made over a huge span of time. The pontil ones can sell pretty high but there is a lot of variation in the values. I think sometimes people mistake them for American bottles.

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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 10:48:27 AM   
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Price's Patent Candle Co. was just that, a candle company. They made candles, parafins, dyes, holders etc..


Eric...

Why, then, aren't they listed under household or some other category other than medicine? Any ideas?

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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 10:53:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		There is a technique called candling, for the treatment of earache, in which candles were (are) actually inserted into the ear and lit. This supposedly draws out the bad stuff, including making the earwax easier to clean from inside the ears.

This is an old technique and could be put into the category of "quackery".

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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 11:00:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know what book you have. My Sellari from the 70's and the 12th ed of Kovels has them under household. Oh, I see, you'll have to take that up with Matt. Whatta you say Matt, they are in your Med book.

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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 11:02:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, Wil...

That's a pretty interesting idea...

Ron

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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 11:08:08 AM   
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12th ed of Kovels


Actually, Eric, the 2 latest Kovel's and Megura's all list it under medicine as well... I guess they were hedging they're bets!

Ron

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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 11:20:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oh yeah, I got a double category in the 12th. I never did find them the most reliable resource but maybe Wil is right. The practice did exist.

Also
quote:

The candle was one of the earliest forms of artificial light. Simple to produce, portable, adaptable, in some cases edible;
so I suppose it could go into the FOOD cat as well.

This page has a lot more on Prices but I still didn't see a medicinal us.

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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 11:38:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Eric...

This may be it:

By the end of the century the company was the largest maker of candles in the world with a reputation that extended beyond candles to soap, lubricating oils and glycerine.

Glycerine has medicinal uses:

Gray's Glycerine Tonic, by John F. Gray Glycerine, gentian, Taraxacum (dandelion), sherry wine, phosphoric acid "digestion aid, stimulates the appetitie"

Ron

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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 11:59:03 AM   
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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 12:03:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		I recently dug a sapphire 1870 variant with the contents still in it, and can guarantee that this stuff was meant to be burnt. The wax in the bottle was mixed with paraffin which kept it liquid, I suppose and highly flammable. It was a nightmare to clean. I'll wager that many a victorian home was burned to the ground as a result of accidents with this stuff!. The sapphire variant sells for about $125 and the deep cobalt $150-200. I once dug a pontiled one broken--in LIME GREEN!!! Imagine the price tag on that one! You can see the sapphire one on my site www.privypages.com

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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 1:57:08 PM   
bearswede


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Status: offline 		Thanks for the information, John...

The one I bid on and missed by a couple of bucks went for $143 and change...

Ron

PS... What have you got against archeologists? (I was one in a former life... May still be one...)

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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 2:46:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm still curious of what Matt may have to say. I figure I'm wrong and would like to know. Why do people put this under Medicinal?

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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 2:56:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		My book isnt strickly medicines. It also contains a few bottles that are normally listed as medicines. For example GENUINE ESSENCE bottles could certainly be listed as food or household but are almost always listed under medicines. I try to include early pontil "medicine like" bottles even if they arent strickly medicines because the people who collect medicines are often interested in these bottles too. Its often not obvious what bottles contained without a lot of research. So far no one has complained. I may weed out some non-medines as the number of listing grow.

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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 3:05:49 PM   
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quote:

I may weed out some non-medines as the number of listing grow.


Don't do that, Matt... The more, the better, I say...


Ron

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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 3:10:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm sure that it's put under medicines simply because it's a British bottle that hasn't been thoroughly researched-- kind of like T&M (BEAR'S OIL bottles) getting listed as inks.

John

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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 3:12:21 PM   
Bluegrass

 

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Status: offline 		Nothing really against archeologists...lol-- just the ones who are forever looking disdainfully down their pointy noses at privy diggers.

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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 3:25:33 PM   
cowseatmaize


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Status: offline 		I'm not complaining, I love the book!!! If a few odds and ends get in the mix, GREEAAAT!! as Tony would say. Sorry if it seamed like a dig, no, wrong word for here, definitely. How 'bout dis?
All appologies as needed to all.
Eric

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RE: Price's Patent Candle Co. - 2/11/2006 4:14:35 PM   
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just the ones who are forever looking disdainfully down their pointy noses at privy diggers.


That wouldn't be me...

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